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Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Photos and a first question

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Photos and a first question
From: "David Kettler" <dkettler1@charter.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:20:09 -0500
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Bill;

This was so well said.  One of the reasons I like the TR=E2=80=99s and =
the people is that they are =E2=80=98enthusiasts=E2=80=99.  These people =
are in the sport because they truly love the cars, and it is not about =
being seen and having prestige because I own a Porsche, etc.

Glad to see you made a lap or two last weekend and I enjoyed seeing the =
pics of your paddock.

Dave

From: BillDentin@aol.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:25 AM
To: joeg@neb.rr.com=20
Cc: fot@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Photos and a first question

In a message dated 09/09/2013 9:05:21 PM Central Daylight Time, =
joeg@neb.rr.com writes:



  I have many questions after attending this event; but I'll start with =
one.
  Why do we call it the "Triumph Ghetto" when high class operations like =
the
  West Coast Crew in Tony Garmey's Ferrari Transporter, and so many =
others are
  there?  And then you add high class people like Peggy and Kas? This is =
no
  "ghetto" scene, my friends.



Of course not, and for sure...there is no shortage of Class in the =
Triumph Paddock.  But 'Triumph Ghetto' is certainly not used in a mean =
spirited manner.  It is just an attempt at some self-depreciating, =
tongue in cheek humor, as well as a reference to our humble beginnings.  =


My dictionary defines ghetto as "a section of a city, especially a =
thickly populated slum area, inhabited by members of an ethnic or other =
minority group often as a result of social or economic restrictions, =
pressures, or hardships." =20

In a way that can be used to describe us.  Back in the so-called 'Golden =
Age', when Kas was just a kid, the paddock was full of full of exotic =
sports cars, most of who's names ended in a vowel and cost wheel barrows =
full of dollars.  TRIUMPHs were different.  They had a price tag that =
was reachable (barely) by the common man.  Thus many people who bought =
TRIUMPHs, were folk regularly challenged by economic restrictions, =
pressures, and other hardships.  But at those golden age events, they =
showed up..as the low budget, back yard efforts they were, and clustered =
together.  No gold chains around their necks, they were bonded brothers =
(and sisters), competing against the other, more glamorous, well-funded =
racing efforts.  Heck, even Kas' TRIUMPH factory backed effort was very =
'low budget'.  But history documents the fact that TRIUMPH's performance =
record was Top Shelf.  Based strictly on the number of wins (volume), =
TRIUMPH can lay a claim to the most successful sports car performance =
record of all time.  Consider, the performance of the TR4 caused SCCA to =
change the way race cars were grouped at their events.

I suggest that these days, when the term Triumph Ghetto is used today, =
it is just a reference to our humble, low budget beginnings.  And, let's =
face it...some of that continues today.  Many of the vintage TRIUMPH =
racers I know have more than one place for every nickel they have =
available.  They scrimp and save to be able to race at these events.  =
And just like back in the day...they go FAST.

Bill Dentinger
      =20


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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 10, 2013 9:25 AM</DIV>
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face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 color=3D#400040 size=3D3 =
face=3DArial=20
family=3D"SANSSERIF" ptsize=3D"12">In a message dated 09/09/2013 9:05:21 =
PM Central=20
Daylight Time, joeg@neb.rr.com writes:<BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" color=3D#000000 size=3D2 =
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type=3D"CITE">I have many questions after attending this event; but I'll =
start=20
  with one.<BR>Why do we call it the "Triumph Ghetto" when high class =
operations=20
  like the<BR>West Coast Crew in Tony Garmey's Ferrari Transporter, and =
so many=20
  others are<BR>there?&nbsp; And then you add high class people like =
Peggy and=20
  Kas? This is no<BR>"ghetto" scene, my =
friends.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT=20
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face=3DArial=20
family=3D"SANSSERIF" ptsize=3D"12" back=3D"#ffffff"><BR>Of course not, =
and for=20
sure...there is no shortage of Class in the Triumph Paddock.&nbsp; But =
'Triumph=20
Ghetto' is certainly not used in a mean spirited manner.&nbsp; It is =
just an=20
attempt at some self-depreciating, tongue in cheek humor, as well as a =
reference=20
to our humble beginnings.&nbsp; <BR><BR>My dictionary defines ghetto as =
"a=20
section of a city, especially a thickly populated slum area, inhabited =
by=20
members of an ethnic or other minority group often as a result of social =
or=20
economic restrictions, pressures, or hardships."&nbsp; <BR><BR>In a way =
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be used to describe us.&nbsp; Back in the so-called 'Golden Age', when =
Kas was=20
just a kid, the paddock was full of full of exotic sports cars, most of =
who's=20
names ended in a vowel and cost wheel barrows full of dollars.&nbsp; =
TRIUMPHs=20
were different.&nbsp; They had a price tag that was reachable (barely) =
by the=20
common man.&nbsp; Thus many people who bought TRIUMPHs, were folk =
regularly=20
challenged by economic restrictions, pressures, and other =
hardships.&nbsp; But=20
at those golden age events, they showed up..as the low budget, back yard =
efforts=20
they were, and clustered together.&nbsp; No gold chains around their =
necks, they=20
were bonded brothers (and sisters), competing against the other, more =
glamorous,=20
well-funded racing efforts.&nbsp; Heck, even Kas' TRIUMPH factory backed =
effort=20
was very 'low budget'.&nbsp; But history documents the fact that =
TRIUMPH's=20
performance record was Top Shelf.&nbsp; Based strictly on the number of =
wins=20
(volume), TRIUMPH can lay a claim to the most successful sports car =
performance=20
record of all time.&nbsp; Consider, the performance of the TR4 caused =
SCCA to=20
change the way race cars were grouped at their events.<BR><BR>I suggest =
that=20
these days, when the term Triumph Ghetto is used today, it is just a =
reference=20
to our humble, low budget beginnings.&nbsp; And, let's face it...some of =
that=20
continues today.&nbsp; Many of the vintage TRIUMPH racers I know have =
more than=20
one place for every nickel they have available.&nbsp; They scrimp and =
save to be=20
able to race at these events.&nbsp; And just like back in the day...they =
go=20
FAST.<BR><BR>Bill Dentinger<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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