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The=20split=20seals=20(series=20Land=20Rover)=20work=20as=20intended.=0AProblems=
=20are=20usually=20resultant=20from=20any=20one=20or=20combination=20of=20poor=20=
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=20would=20say=20"some=20degree=20of=20fitting=20may=20be=20required".=20It's=20=
a=20fussy=20operation,=20it's=20easy=20to=20screw=20up=20the=20installation=20bu=
t=20they=20do=20work.=0AAlso=20when=20I'm=20done,=20I=20fill=20the=20cavity=20be=
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-----Original=20Message-----=0AFrom:=20Greg=20And=20Alison=20Blake=20via=20Fot=20=
<fot@autox.team.net>=0ATo:=20Duncan=20Charlton=20<duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>=0A=
Cc:=20FOT=20List=20Triumph=20<fot@autox.team.net>;=20Dan=20<adcronin@gmail.com>=0A=
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side=20with=20RTV.=20Does=20not=20leak=20but=20I=20may=20have=20gotten=20lucky.=20=
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn=20Feb=2021,=202015,=20at=208:50=20PM,=20Duncan=20Charlton=20vi=
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Chris=20on=20this.=20=20Don't=20bother=20welding=20it,=20just=20run=20theseal=20=
that=20fits=20it.=20=20I=20am=20running=20that=20crankshaft=20in=20my=20race=20T=
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><font=20size=3D"2">The=20split=20seals=20(series=20Land=20Rover)=20work=20as=20=
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<fot@autox.team.net><br>=0A=0ATo:=20Duncan=20Charlton=20<duncan.charlto=
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<div>I=20clean=20followed=20by=20smearing=20top=20side=20with=20RTV.=20Does=20no=
t=20leak=20but=20I=20may=20have=20gotten=20lucky. <br>=0A=0A<br>=0A=0A<br>=0A=
=0A</div>=0A=0A=0A=0A<div><br>=0A=0AOn=20Feb=2021,=202015,=20at=208:50=20PM,=20D=
uncan=20Charlton=20via=20Fot=20<<a=20href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@a=
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