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To: "Sam Halkias" <atr6racer@hotmail.com>, "Kas Kastner" <kaskastner@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Best spectator vintage event
From: Bill Tobin via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 23:35:53 -0400
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INDY last year was probably the highlight of my vintage experience.
Between having two in depth conversations with a former winner and =
buying and having lunch with a quite famous lady driver it was a blast. =
Money (lots!) well spent.
Lots of very interesting cars of all types and the museum was worth the =
visit.
The oval session was beyond description. The road course was fun.
The spectators were in heaven; they couldn't believe they were invited =
into the garages to look at the cars and actually sit in them. One lad =
of about eight said he had been to five 500's!
The concert was good and the fireworks went on forever. Tony Perela said =
he wanted the biggest fireworks show in the state: I think he got his =
wish.
This year's concert is B S & T by what I heard. Any of our older gang =
heard of them?
And on the way home, the Air Force Museum is not to be missed if you're =
headed east.
Great time.
OBTW: if you follow NASCAR, Danica(n't) just tied another woman's record =
of 5 top 10 finishes. Took her about 120 races to do it with enormous =
money behind her.
The other woman? Janet Guthrie, who did it in 33 races, without nearly =
the resources or quality of equipment. Also Ms Guthrie oozes charm, wit, =
character, class, and personality.=20
I'm not doing INDY this year, but will be there, maybe helping an old =
friend with his cars. See you there.
Bill
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Sam Halkias via Fot=20
  To: Kas Kastner=20
  Cc: FoT Triumph=20
  Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 8:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Best spectator vintage event


  Did anybody recommend the SVRA Indy event? Great spectating including =
big screen TV all around the track. First one was last year and drew =
over 700 cars and at least 10K spectators. I know I loved both the track =
and the spectating.=20


  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


  Kas Kastner via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:


  When I made my recommendation of a good track to see cars and races it =
was Sear's Point, North of S.F. BUT, if you want to see a great variety =
of cars and really nice cars it is Road America and I guess Watkins Glen =
gets the same approval. Famous tracks.


  Never be beaten by equipment.



  On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Robert Deanes via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:

    With all these other tracks, besides Watkins Glen my "bucket list" =
is getting bigger !


    On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Ted Schumacher via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:

      A bit out of the way, but Le Mans Classic. Every other year event, =
2016 is next, and draws cars and spectators from around the world  (and, =
like Road America, the food is great). Ted=20



      On 3/27/2015 10:36 PM, Home Consolidated via Fot wrote:

        One I have not seem otherwise mentioned is the Pittsburg Vintage =
Grand Prix (Shinnlley sp Park). It has a very inclusive car show as =
well.=20


        Ken Gano.=20

        Sent from my iPad

        On Mar 27, 2015, at 9:30 AM, davehogye via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:


          Well, the Kastner Cup has given me great reason and =
opportunity to visit some very special tracks and towns with significant =
historical appeal.  I'd have to agree that Road America and Watkins Glen =
with the enthusiastic community surrounding the racing events are =
especially wonderful.
          Elkhart Lake's Osthoff hotel is the place to stay. =20



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          From: "Bill Dentinger via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
          To: jwheeler1947@yahoo.com, fot@autox.team.net
          Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 6:41:55 AM
          Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw:  Best spectator vintage event



          Amici...

          The responses to 'Best spectator vintage event' all tickle me. =
 They remind me of that old joke that ends, "Well,...even bad sex is =
pretty good."  Point being, pick one, you damn near can't go wrong. =20

          But of course some are better than others.  We had run most of =
the major tracks in the country east of Hallet, and in fact many of the =
minor tracks as well.  I think my top five suggestions would include the =
'major annual' vintage events at Road America, Road Atlanta, Lime Rock, =
Mid-Ohio, and Watkins Glen.  If I had to pick just one Top Choice (and =
having been given the guideline of bring 'an auto enthusiast vice an =
experienced racer'), I think I'd pick the Lime Rock Labor Day weekend =
because their No Sunday Racing policy allows for a second 'happening'.  =
On Sunday they have a HUGE Concours that attracts tons and tons of =
exotic collector cars.  I think that would sit well given the =
guidelines.  Add to that...it is a back to back racing weekend with the =
big Watkins Glen event, providing an opportunity to get to both of them =
(and there is plenty to do in the area during the days between them.

          Bill Dentinger
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>INDY last year was probably the =
highlight of my=20
vintage experience.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Between having two in depth =
conversations with a=20
former winner and buying and having lunch with a quite famous lady =
driver it was=20
a blast. Money (lots!) well spent.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Lots of very interesting cars of all =
types and the=20
museum was worth the visit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The oval session was beyond =
description. The road=20
course was fun.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The spectators were in heaven; they =
couldn't=20
believe they were invited into the garages to look at the cars and =
actually sit=20
in them. One lad of about eight said he had been to five =
500's!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The concert was good and the fireworks =
went on=20
forever. Tony Perela said he wanted the biggest fireworks show in the =
state: I=20
think he got his wish.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>This year's concert is B S &amp; T by =
what I heard.=20
Any of our older gang heard of them?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>And on the way home, the Air Force =
Museum is not to=20
be missed if you're headed east.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Great time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>OBTW: if you follow NASCAR, Danica(n't) =
just tied=20
another woman's record of 5 top 10 finishes. Took her about 120 races to =
do it=20
with enormous money behind her.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The other woman? Janet Guthrie, who did =
it in 33=20
races, without nearly the resources or quality of equipment. Also Ms =
Guthrie=20
oozes charm, wit, character,&nbsp;class, and personality. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I'm not doing INDY this year, but will =
be there,=20
maybe helping an old friend with his cars. See you there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Bill</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dfot@autox.team.net href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>Sam =
Halkias via=20
  Fot</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dkaskastner@gmail.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com";>Kas Kastner</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dfot@autox.team.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>FoT Triumph</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 30, 2015 =
8:35=20
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Fw: Best =
spectator=20
  vintage event</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>Did anybody recommend the SVRA Indy event? Great spectating =
including big=20
  screen TV all around the track. First one was last year and drew over =
700 cars=20
  and at least 10K spectators. I know I loved both the track and the =
spectating.=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT style=3D"COLOR: #333333"><I>Sent from my Verizon Wireless =
4G LTE=20
  DROID</I></FONT></DIV></DIV><BR><BR>Kas Kastner via Fot &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR><BR>
  <DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>When I made my recommendation of a good track to see =
cars and=20
  races it was Sear's Point, North of S.F. BUT, if you want to see a =
great=20
  variety of cars and really nice cars it is Road America and I guess =
Watkins=20
  Glen gets the same approval. Famous tracks.</DIV>
  <DIV class=3Dx_gmail_extra><BR clear=3Dall>
  <DIV>
  <DIV class=3Dx_gmail_signature>
  <P><STRONG><FONT color=3D#000099>Never be beaten by=20
  equipment.</FONT></STRONG></P></DIV></DIV><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dx_gmail_quote>On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Robert =
Deanes via=20
  Fot <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"=20
  target=3D_blank>fot@autox.team.net</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; =
PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"=20
  class=3Dx_gmail_quote>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>With all these other tracks, besides Watkins Glen my =
"bucket=20
    list" is getting bigger !</DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dx_gmail_extra><BR>
    <DIV class=3Dx_gmail_quote>On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Ted =
Schumacher via=20
    Fot <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"=20
    target=3D_blank>fot@autox.team.net</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
    style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px =
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      <DIV bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
      <DIV>A bit out of the way, but Le Mans Classic. Every other year =
event,=20
      2016 is next, and draws cars and spectators from around the =
world&nbsp;=20
      (and, like Road America, the food is great). Ted=20
      <DIV>
      <DIV><BR><BR><BR>On 3/27/2015 10:36 PM, Home Consolidated via Fot=20
      wrote:<BR></DIV></DIV></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
        <DIV>
        <DIV>
        <DIV>One I have not seem otherwise mentioned is the Pittsburg =
Vintage=20
        Grand Prix (Shinnlley sp Park). It has a very inclusive car show =
as=20
        well.&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV>Ken Gano.&nbsp;<BR><BR>Sent from my iPad</DIV>
        <DIV><BR>On Mar 27, 2015, at 9:30 AM, davehogye via Fot &lt;<A=20
        href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"=20
        target=3D_blank>fot@autox.team.net</A>&gt; wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
          <DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
          <DIV>Well, the Kastner Cup has given me great reason and =
opportunity=20
          to visit some very special tracks and towns with significant=20
          historical appeal.&nbsp; I'd have to agree that Road America =
and=20
          Watkins Glen with the enthusiastic community surrounding the =
racing=20
          events are especially wonderful.</DIV>
          <DIV>Elkhart Lake's Osthoff hotel is the place to stay. =
&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV><BR></DIV>
          <HR>

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Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); FONT-SIZE: 12pt; =
FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none"><B>From:=20
          </B>"Bill Dentinger via Fot" &lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"=20
          target=3D_blank>fot@autox.team.net</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: </B><A=20
          href=3D"mailto:jwheeler1947@yahoo.com"=20
          target=3D_blank>jwheeler1947@yahoo.com</A>, <A=20
          href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"=20
          target=3D_blank>fot@autox.team.net</A><BR><B>Sent: </B>Friday, =
March 27,=20
          2015 6:41:55 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Fot] Fw: &nbsp;Best =
spectator=20
          vintage event<BR>
          <DIV><BR></DIV><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: rgb(64,0,64); FONT-SIZE: =
small"=20
          lang=3D0 color=3D"#400040" size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial">Amici...<BR><BR>The=20
          responses to 'Best spectator vintage event' all tickle =
me.&nbsp; They=20
          remind me of that old joke that ends, "Well,...even bad sex is =
pretty=20
          good."&nbsp; Point being, pick one, you damn near can't go=20
          wrong.&nbsp; <BR><BR>But of course some are better than =
others.&nbsp;=20
          We had run most of the major tracks in the country east of =
Hallet, and=20
          in fact many of the minor tracks as well.&nbsp; I think my top =
five=20
          suggestions would include the 'major annual' vintage events at =
Road=20
          America, Road Atlanta, Lime Rock, Mid-Ohio, and Watkins =
Glen.&nbsp; If=20
          I had to pick just one Top Choice (and having been given the =
guideline=20
          of bring 'an auto enthusiast vice an experienced racer'), I =
think I'd=20
          pick the Lime Rock Labor Day weekend because their No Sunday =
Racing=20
          policy allows for a second 'happening'.&nbsp; On Sunday they =
have a=20
          HUGE Concours that attracts tons and tons of exotic collector=20
          cars.&nbsp; I think that would sit well given the =
guidelines.&nbsp;=20
          Add to that...it is a back to back racing weekend with the big =
Watkins=20
          Glen event, providing an opportunity to get to both of them =
(and there=20
          is plenty to do in the area during the days between =
them.<BR><BR>Bill=20
          Dentinger<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
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