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Re: [Fot] Synchros

To: Jason Ostrowski <jason@multivintage.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Synchros
From: Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 12:57:44 -0400
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I agree with Jason - spending the $1,000 +/- for an expert rebuild has =
resulted in the same survival rate (not long) as the $50-$100 used ones.
The real cost is in the lost race weekends when the thing blows up on a =
very regular basis.
I run a TR6 box.
Marty, if you are using this for a Spitfire upgrade you are probably =
more than fine, but for a GT6 with a developed engine, my advice is give =
up and move on, or be prepared to make a paddock swap every other =
weekend.

On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot wrote:

If you must for some reason use a GT6 gearbox:
If it looks good and everything seems in order I would use it without =
doubt.
For whatever reason, by comparison I have gotten the most miles out of =
good old "barn find" unworked gt6 transmissions.
I've had many of them built by "the best".
Although It seems contrary to our greater "never be beaten by equipment" =
philosophy...
The unworked original crappy ones have gone longer (for me) than the =
"professionally serviced" new gear (usuallyTR7) and sychro ones.
In my own program, since I have to take them out after every race (Third =
gear is usually all but toasted), I stopped spending the $ money on the =
gearbox rebuilds and focused more on finding and using several good =
older ones.
I can use the gearbox for the same amount of time for much less $.
Since I am struggling to survive in this sport of wealthy kings...
Its nice to SOMETIMES find the cheap way works.

Note: Friendly Ghost Racing is not responsible for recommending these =
risky and absurd transmission choices of using a "barn find" unit. We =
only do these things because the trans will break soon anyway.

Cheers!
Jason Ostrowski
Friendly Ghost Racing =20

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:50 AM, marty via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
I have a GT6 transmission of unknown history. Visually it looks in =
really good shape internally. Am considering doing a refresh with new =
bearings and synchros. I did some reading on the archives and while most =
of the post are from a while ago I get the impression that the synchros =
made now (or then anyhow) were of poor quality and that the original =
were much better and if you didn't need to change them it was best to =
leave the old one in place.  Thoughts?=20
=20
Thanks,
=20
Marty

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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I =
agree with Jason - spending the $1,000 +/- for an expert rebuild has =
resulted in the same survival rate (not long) as the $50-$100 used =
ones.<div>The real cost is in the lost race weekends when the thing =
blows up on a very regular basis.</div><div>I run a TR6 =
box.</div><div>Marty, if you are using this for a Spitfire upgrade you =
are probably more than fine, but for a GT6 with a developed engine, my =
advice is give up and move on, or be prepared to make a paddock swap =
every other weekend.</div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 31, 2015, at 12:06 =
PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>If you must =
for some reason use a GT6 gearbox:</div><div>If it looks good and =
everything seems in order I would use it without doubt.</div><div>For =
whatever reason, by comparison I have gotten the most miles out of good =
old "barn find" unworked gt6 transmissions.</div><div>I've had many of =
them built by "the best".</div><div>Although It seems contrary to our =
greater "never be beaten by equipment" philosophy...</div><div>The =
unworked original crappy ones have gone longer (for me) than the =
"professionally serviced" new gear (usuallyTR7)&nbsp;and sychro =
ones.</div><div>In my own program, since I have to take them out after =
every race (Third gear is usually all but toasted), I stopped spending =
the $ money on the gearbox rebuilds and focused more on finding and =
using several good older ones.</div><div>I can use the gearbox for the =
same amount of time for much less $.</div><div>Since I am struggling to =
survive in this sport of wealthy kings...</div><div>Its nice to =
SOMETIMES find the cheap way works.</div><div><br></div><div>Note: =
Friendly Ghost Racing is not responsible for recommending these risky =
and absurd transmission choices of using a "barn find"&nbsp;unit. We =
only do these things because the trans will break soon =
anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers!</div><div>Jason =
Ostrowski</div><div>Friendly Ghost Racing&nbsp;&nbsp;</div></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 30, =
2015 at 7:50 AM, marty via Fot <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have a GT6 transmission of unknown history. =
Visually it looks in really good shape internally. Am =
considering&nbsp;doing a refresh with new bearings and synchros. I did =
some reading on the archives and while most of the post are from a while =
ago I get the impression that the synchros made now (or then anyhow) =
were of poor quality and that the original were much better and if you =
didn't need to change them it was best to leave&nbsp;the old one in =
place.&nbsp; Thoughts?&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Thanks,<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
&nbsp;<br>
Marty<br>                                         =
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