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To: John Hasty <jhasty@mhc-law.com>, FOT <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Hoosier Speedsters for a TR3 Question
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Or, you just notch the rear springs to clear the tire. Not a big deal
really.

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On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 4:38 PM, John Hasty via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I use 5.5 panasport rims about 2' neg camber, 3' caster & a front sway ba=
r
> that Larry made with no rubbing problem.  The rear is another thing.  Wit=
h
> Southwick conversion & Gillanders springs I do get left fender rub or rig=
ht
> spring rub depending on the track....no big deal just move the rear end t=
o
> compensate or wheel spacers as required.... This year added a Panhard
> bar.... Hope this solves all this....
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 7, 2015, at 4:51 PM, "John Styduhar via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net
>
> Jeff, the recommendation you asked for on Speedster tire selection for a
> TR3 depends on several things, like your rim width and offset, front
> swaybar interference possibility at full turn left or right, how wide of =
a
> spacer you have or need to run on the front and back, rear fender lip
> treatment requirements, leaf spring clearancing, rear axle width if you
> have the "Southwick conversion", how much have you lowered your car from
> stock ride height, tire pressure, etc. The minimum rim width for the 205 =
is
> 5.5 inches.
> I can tell you that 205/60 15 Speedsters do fit (barely) on my TR3 but al=
l
> the things I mentioned had to be addressed. I do have a slight amount of
> tire rub on the leaf springs if the tire pressure is lowered to the mid
> 20s. You may also see uneven tire wear from inside to outside with the 20=
5s
> vs. the 185s because the tire is rolling under with the 5.5 inch rim.  Th=
e
> 205 is a better fit with a wider rim.  I also know that John Hasty uses
> 205s but not sure about what he needed to do for clearancing or his wheel
> selection.
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Bill Babcock via Fot <fot@autox.team.net
> I=E2=80=9Dm talking about the front of course, since Peyote is also solid=
 rear
> axle. It=E2=80=99a possible to get camber with a solid axle, but I=E2=80=
=99ve never gone to
> that degree of trouble since i sometimes have to go back to Dunlops. The
> Speedsters are kind of semi-radial, at least that=E2=80=99s how they resp=
ond to
> camber. I get the best tire temps at about two degrees and the best wear
> patterns too.
>
> As far as 185/205 goes, I don=E2=80=99t know what fits on a TR3. Might be=
 a
> squeeze to get 205=E2=80=99s in. I haven=E2=80=99t seen any significant d=
ifference in lap
> times between the two, but I never measured head to head.
>
>
> bschirano@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> I don't run them, still on the TDs, but Mike Moore runs them on a TR4 wit=
h
> beam axle that goes like stink, no camber back there
>
> Mike you out there?
>
> Brian Schirano
> 585-305-0349<tel:585-305-0349> Cell
>
> --------------------------------------------
> fot@autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Hoosier Speedsters for a TR3 Question
> Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2015, 3:53 AM
>
> You=E2=80=99re
> going to need a little camber to make them work.
> On
> fot@autox.team.net>>
> wrote:
> Hey all, I'm going to need
> a set of tires for my TR3 for Summit Point.  I've
> been running Hoosier
> Vintage TDs for a long time, but am ready to switch to
> the Hoosier Speedsters.
>  My question is what size would be best, the 185s or
> the 205s.  I know most
> TR guys have gone to the Speedsters so I thought I
> could gather some
> collective wisdom from the group.
>
> Vroom, vroom,
>
> Jeff Snook
> http://www.snooksdreamcars.com
> 419-344-0319<tel:419-344-0319> (Mobile)
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Or, you just notch the rear springs to clear the tire. Not=
 a big deal really.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_signature"><p><strong><font color=3D"#000099">Never be =
beaten by equipment.</font></strong></p></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 4:38 PM, John Hasty v=
ia Fot <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">I use 5.5 panasport rims about 2&#39; neg camber, 3&#39; cast=
er &amp; a front sway bar that Larry made with no rubbing problem.=C2=A0 Th=
e rear is another thing.=C2=A0 With Southwick conversion &amp; Gillanders s=
prings I do get left fender rub or right spring rub depending on the track.=
...no big deal just move the rear end to compensate or wheel spacers as req=
uired.... This year added a Panhard bar.... Hope this solves all this....<b=
r>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
On May 7, 2015, at 4:51 PM, &quot;John Styduhar via Fot&quot; &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"=
mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
Jeff, the recommendation you asked for on Speedster tire selection for a TR=
3 depends on several things, like your rim width and offset, front swaybar =
interference possibility at full turn left or right, how wide of a spacer y=
ou have or need to run on the front and back, rear fender lip treatment req=
uirements, leaf spring clearancing, rear axle width if you have the &quot;S=
outhwick conversion&quot;, how much have you lowered your car from stock ri=
de height, tire pressure, etc. The minimum rim width for the 205 is 5.5 inc=
hes.<br>
I can tell you that 205/60 15 Speedsters do fit (barely) on my TR3 but all =
the things I mentioned had to be addressed. I do have a slight amount of ti=
re rub on the leaf springs if the tire pressure is lowered to the mid 20s. =
You may also see uneven tire wear from inside to outside with the 205s vs. =
the 185s because the tire is rolling under with the 5.5 inch rim.=C2=A0 The=
 205 is a better fit with a wider rim.=C2=A0 I also know that John Hasty us=
es 205s but not sure about what he needed to do for clearancing or his whee=
l selection.<br>
<br>
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Bill Babcock via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:fot=
@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
I=E2=80=9Dm talking about the front of course, since Peyote is also solid r=
ear axle. It=E2=80=99a possible to get camber with a solid axle, but I=E2=
=80=99ve never gone to that degree of trouble since i sometimes have to go =
back to Dunlops. The Speedsters are kind of semi-radial, at least that=E2=
=80=99s how they respond to camber. I get the best tire temps at about two =
degrees and the best wear patterns too.<br>
<br>
As far as 185/205 goes, I don=E2=80=99t know what fits on a TR3. Might be a=
 squeeze to get 205=E2=80=99s in. I haven=E2=80=99t seen any significant di=
fference in lap times between the two, but I never measured head to head.<b=
r>
<br>
<br>
On May 5, 2015, at 4:49 AM, Brian Schirano &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bschirano@=
yahoo.com">bschirano@yahoo.com</a>&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bschirano@ya=
hoo.com">bschirano@yahoo.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t run them, still on the TDs, but Mike Moore runs them on a TR4 w=
ith beam axle that goes like stink, no camber back there<br>
<br>
Mike you out there?<br>
<br>
Brian Schirano<br>
585-305-0349&lt;tel:585-305-0349&gt; Cell<br>
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et">fot@autox.team.net</a>&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>=
fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
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Subject: Re: [Fot] Hoosier Speedsters for a TR3 Question<br>
To: &quot;Jeff Snook&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeffsnook01@gmail.com";>jef=
fsnook01@gmail.com</a>&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:jeffsnook01@gmail.com";>j=
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Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2015, 3:53 AM<br>
<br>
You=E2=80=99re<br>
going to need a little camber to make them work.<br>
On<br>
May 4, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Jeff Snook via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox=
.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.tea=
m.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;&gt;<br>
wrote:<br>
Hey all, I&#39;m going to need<br>
a set of tires for my TR3 for Summit Point.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve<br>
been running Hoosier<br>
Vintage TDs for a long time, but am ready to switch to<br>
the Hoosier Speedsters.<br>
=C2=A0My question is what size would be best, the 185s or<br>
the 205s.=C2=A0 I know most<br>
TR guys have gone to the Speedsters so I thought I<br>
could gather some<br>
collective wisdom from the group.<br>
<br>
Vroom, vroom,<br>
<br>
Jeff Snook<br>
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419-344-0319&lt;tel:419-344-0319&gt; (Mobile)<br>
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