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Re: [Fot] Damn Headers (Again)

To: Dan Forgey <cofrog@q.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Damn Headers (Again)
From: Mike Deweerd <deweerdm@rogers.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2015 16:56:43 -0400
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Dan
I got into a discussion with ???"someone"???? at Summit point who told me th=
at ???"another someone" ??? Had bought the tooling and design from Stahl for=
 the TR4s ..... I wish I could remember who it was that was telling me this a=
nd who it was that bought it from Stahl .....hopefully someone will chime in=
 ......someone with a better memory then me :)=20
It may have been Richard Good ???

Anyway I purchased a stahl header just before they retired and had quite the=
 fitting issues as well ...in Stahl's defence my head is milled down so the f=
lange hit the block but the flange was also too big for my intake to fit and=
 the bolt holes didn't line up to the head..... a slight massage of the fram=
e and it fit passed the frame but I ended up welding the inside of the tubes=
 do I could remove enough material to fit the intake :(=20
Good luck=20
Cheers Mike=20





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> On Jul 18, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Dan Forgey <cofrog@q.com> wrote:
>=20
> Headers on my TR4A race car have been a pain.  Ones that came with the car=
 were the stuff from the big three.  Bought Stahl headers that wouldn't clea=
r the lower A-arm mount and had other fitment issues.=20
>=20
> So had some custom one's made at Hank's Hot Rods in Colorado who is involv=
ed with NASA.  He quoted me about $600 and I let him have the Stahl headers a=
nd car with instructions to make some with basic design of the Stahl headers=
 that would fit.  When done the price was 2.5 times the quote, nowhere near t=
he design of the Stahls and showed shoddy workmanship. Don't go there! Only g=
ood part on the was the correct size flange I got from Mordy Dunst.
>=20
> The shoddy swordsmanship has caught up with me after doing repairs in the p=
ast and there is an unrepairable hole where the #4 tube is entering the coll=
ector. =20
>=20
> Chris Marx has recommended a Phoenix stainless steel racing header that he=
 has used with success. Haven't been able to find this (yet).  However found=
 these; http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-RF4075.  Has anyone used them or=
 have an opinion?  I'd be tempted to try Ken Gillander's headers but he is i=
ndisposed at this time.
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Dan</div><div>I got into a discussion w=
ith ???"someone"???? at Summit point who told me that ???"another someone" ?=
?? Had bought the tooling and design from Stahl for the TR4s ..... I wish I c=
ould remember who it was that was telling me this and who it was that bought=
 it from Stahl .....hopefully someone will chime in ......someone with a bet=
ter memory then me :)&nbsp;</div><div>It may have been Richard Good ???</div=
><div><br></div><div>Anyway I purchased a stahl header just before they reti=
red and had quite the fitting issues as well ...in Stahl's defence my head i=
s milled down so the flange hit the block but the flange was also too big fo=
r my intake to fit and the bolt holes didn't line up to the head..... a slig=
ht massage of the frame and it fit passed the frame but I ended up welding t=
he inside of the tubes do I could remove enough material to fit the intake :=
(&nbsp;</div><div>Good luck&nbsp;</div><div>Cheers Mike&nbsp;</div><div><br>=
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>Sent from my iPh=
one</div><div><br>On Jul 18, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Dan Forgey &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:cofrog@q.com">cofrog@q.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;=
 font-size: 12pt; color: #000000">Headers on my TR4A race car have been a pa=
in. &nbsp;Ones that came with the car were the stuff from the big three. &nb=
sp;Bought Stahl headers that wouldn't clear the lower A-arm mount and had ot=
her fitment issues.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>So had some custom one's made a=
t Hank's Hot Rods in Colorado who is involved with NASA. &nbsp;He quoted me a=
bout $600 and I let him have the Stahl headers and car with instructions to m=
ake some with basic design of the Stahl headers that would fit. &nbsp;When d=
one the price was 2.5 times the quote, nowhere near the design of the Stahls=
 and showed shoddy workmanship. Don't go there! Only good part on the was th=
e correct size flange I got from Mordy Dunst.</div><div><br></div><div>The s=
hoddy swordsmanship has caught up with me after doing repairs in the past an=
d there is an unrepairable hole where the #4 tube is entering the collector.=
 &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Chris Marx has recommended a Phoenix stainl=
ess steel racing header that he has used with success. Haven't been able to f=
ind this (yet). &nbsp;However found these;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.rimmer=
bros.co.uk/Item--i-RF4075">http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-RF4075</a>. &=
nbsp;Has anyone used them or have an opinion? &nbsp;I'd be tempted to try Ke=
n Gillander's headers but he is indisposed at this time.</div><div><br></div=
><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><spa=
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