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Personally I will not use Lucas Oil Stabilizer or any of their other
products. I put it in a street TR6 Engine once and when I pulled the oil
pan I found it a congealed mess at the bottom of the pan. I have had the
same experience with STP years ago and its almost impossible to find
now. When I called Lucas wondering why and wanting to talk to one of the
engineers I got stonewalled with talking points.
Their claim to fame is apparently great advertising and a stadium in Indy.
Glenn
On 9/12/2015 1:21 PM, Paul Ricco wrote:
> If you are looking for a synthetic oil that still has ZDDP, Redline is
> making it. Additionally, they do produce a an engine break-in
> additive for conventional oils that lack Zink.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 12, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Bill Tobin <william.tobin31@verizon.net
>
>> The only thing I use is STP, and if you read the can, one of the
>> ingredients is a thing called ZDDP.
>> No problems so far (knock on wood).
>> Bill
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 12, 2015 9:22 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator
>>
>> My dad, one of the engineers responsible for the Buick/Rover 3.5
>> taught me that if you start with a quality motor oil, there is no
>> need for any additives. Disagree if you wish, but I have stuck
>> with that advice.
>>
>>
>> Doug Mitchell
>> Sent from my mobile phone
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com
>> Date: 09/12/2015 8:51 AM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com
>> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net,'Friends
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator
>>
>>
>> It may have allowed your oil to aerate so your pump was trying to
>> move oil with air bubbles in it. It apparently has no
>> anti-foaming additives, so when you add it to your oil, you are
>> diluting the additives in the regular oil. There was an article
>> on the bobistheoilguy.com <http://bobistheoilguy.com> website
>> some years back that showed in graphic detail what happens with
>> this additive whether it?s used in a gearbox or an engine.
>> Unfortunately I can only find an archived version of this
>> article and the photos are no longer visible. The photos I
>> remember showed the oil turning a much lighter color after it had
>> been thoroughly agitated, which meant it was filled with air
>> bubbles. Air compresses, so I can see a connection between
>> aerated oil and a drop in oil pressure.
>>
>> *http://tinyurl.com/o6atjh8*
>>
>> Duncan
>> (Texas)
>> *
>> *
>>> On Sep 12, 2015, at 3:02 AM, MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com
>>>
>>> Hello Alex,
>>> I was told to use mineral Lucas with synthetic oil. And so I did.
>>> This stuff is stiff like frozen honey.
>>> I suppose the lube went too stiff and the oil pump wasn?t able
>>> to force it through the system and opened the relive valve.
>>> Chris
>>> *Von:*AC [mailto:ac@camoletti.ch]
>>> *Gesendet:*Samstag, 12. September 2015 09:19
>>> *An:*''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'; triumphs@autox.team.net
>>> *Betreff:*Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator
>>>
>>> Hallo lieber Chris! Which Lucas stab did you use? There are two
>>> of them, mineral and synthetic.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- MadMarx a écrit ----
>>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> by accident I found on my camera chip a video how I fill in two
>>> cans of Lucas Oil Stabilisator to 4 gallons of 10w60 oil of the
>>> IMSA TR8.
>>> Listen to the difference.
>>> The oil pressure dropped from 40 to 30 psi and never got over 40
>>> psi on driving. Normally it is at 70 psi.
>>> The engine died after 8 laps with bearing failures on all crank
>>> bearings and a worn out camshaft.
>>> This has happened in April.
>>> My engine man was ill for half a year now, but it seems that
>>> he?s getting back to work next week and tries to repair the engine.
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IVwEbOfkpc
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Personally I will not use Lucas Oil
Stabilizer or any of their other products. I put it in a street
TR6 Engine once and when I pulled the oil pan I found it a
congealed mess at the bottom of the pan. I have had the same
experience with STP years ago and its almost impossible to find
now. When I called Lucas wondering why and wanting to talk to one
of the engineers I got stonewalled with talking points. <br>
<br>
Their claim to fame is apparently great advertising and a stadium
in Indy. <br>
Glenn<br>
<br>
On 9/12/2015 1:21 PM, Paul Ricco wrote:<br>
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<div>If you are looking for a synthetic oil that still has ZDDP,
Redline is making it. Additionally, they do produce a an engine
break-in additive for conventional oils that lack Zink. <br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad</div>
<div><br>
On Sep 12, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Bill Tobin <<a
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class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:william.tobin31@verizon.net";>william.tobin31@verizon.net</a></a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">The only thing I use is STP,
and if you read the can, one of the ingredients is a thing
called ZDDP.</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">No problems so far (knock on
wood).</font></div>
<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Bill</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4;
font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="dbm.spitfire@gmail.com"
href="mailto:dbm.spitfire@gmail.com";>Doug Mitchell</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" title="tr4racing@googlemail.com"
href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>MadMarx</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" title="fot@autox.team.net"
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>'Friends of Triumph'
Triumph</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday,
September 12, 2015 9:22 AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot]
Lucas Oil Stabilisator</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My dad, one of the engineers responsible for the
Buick/Rover 3.5 taught me that if you start with a quality
motor oil, there is no need for any additives. Disagree if
you wish, but I have stuck with that advice.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Doug Mitchell</div>
Sent from my mobile phone<br>
<br>
<br>
-------- Original message --------<br>
From: Duncan Charlton <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com";>duncan.charlton54@gmail.com</a>>
<br>
Date: 09/12/2015 8:51 AM (GMT-05:00) <br>
To: MadMarx <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>>
<br>
Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net,%27Friends";>triumphs@autox.team.net,'Friends</a>
of Triumph' Triumph <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>>
<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator <br>
<br>
<br>
It may have allowed your oil to aerate so your pump was
trying to move oil with air bubbles in it. It apparently
has no anti-foaming additives, so when you add it to your
oil, you are diluting the additives in the regular oil.
There was an article on the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bobistheoilguy.com";>bobistheoilguy.com</a>
website some years back that showed in graphic detail what
happens with this additive whether it?s used in a gearbox or
an engine. Unfortunately I can only find an archived
version of this article and the photos are no longer
visible. The photos I remember showed the oil turning a
much lighter color after it had been thoroughly agitated,
which meant it was filled with air bubbles. Air compresses,
so I can see a connection between aerated oil and a drop in
oil pressure.
<div><br>
<div>
<div><b style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Geneva, Arial,
Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://tinyurl.com/o6atjh8";><a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://tinyurl.com/o6atjh8";>http://tinyurl.com/o6atjh8</a></a></b></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Duncan</div>
<div>(Texas)</div>
<div><b><br>
</b>
<div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>On Sep 12, 2015, at 3:02 AM, MadMarx <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";><a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a></a>>
wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif;
COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US">Hello Alex,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY:
'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif;
COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US"></span> </div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY:
'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif;
COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US">I was told to use mineral
Lucas with synthetic oil. And so I
did.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY:
'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif;
COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US">This stuff is stiff like
frozen honey.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY:
'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif;
COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US"></span> </div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY:
'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif;
COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US">I suppose the lube went too
stiff and the oil pump wasn?t able to
force it through the system and opened the
relive valve.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY:
'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif;
COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US"></span> </div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY:
'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif;
COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US">Chris<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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sans-serif; FONT-SIZE:
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif;
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class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>AC
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ac@camoletti.ch";>mailto:ac@camoletti.ch</a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Gesendet:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Samstag,
12. September 2015 09:19<br>
<b>An:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>''Friends
of Triumph' Triumph'; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";><a
class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a></a>;
MadMarx<br>
<b>Betreff:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
[Fot] Lucas Oil
Stabilisator<o:p></o:p></span></div>
</div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY:
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12pt"><o:p></o:p></div>
<p style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',
serif; MARGIN-LEFT: 0cm; FONT-SIZE: 12pt;
MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm">Hallo lieber Chris! Which
Lucas stab did you use? There are two of
them, mineral and synthetic.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt; FONT-FAMILY:
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class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
---- MadMarx a écrit ----<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR:
rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US">Hi Guys,</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR:
rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US"></span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR:
rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US">by accident I found on my
camera chip a video how I fill in two
cans of Lucas Oil Stabilisator to 4
gallons of 10w60 oil of the IMSA
TR8.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR:
rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US">Listen to the
difference.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR:
rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US">The oil pressure dropped
from 40 to 30 psi and never got over 40
psi on driving. Normally it is at 70
psi.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR:
rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US"></span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;
FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif;
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR:
rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US">The engine died after 8
laps with bearing failures on all crank
bearings and a worn out
camshaft.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;
FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif;
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR:
rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US">This has happened in
April.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR:
rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang="EN-US">My engine man was ill for
half a year now, but it seems that he?s
getting back to work next week and tries
to repair the engine.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;
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FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:
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