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I definitely agree with this.=C2=A0 All my trailers have gotten winches
soon after purchase once I realized how useful they are.
=C2=A0
John
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 19:59:45 -0400, Scott Janzen wrote:
Agree with the winch. Especially useful for hauling broken cars
on. One of the best things I did for my trailer.
Sent from my mobile device=C2=A0
On Oct 31, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Spitfire Racing wrote:
Putting a car on and off a trailer is what winches are made for.
That=E2=80=99s the stuff that buggers clutches also.
=C2=A0
Russ
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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of McKearn McKearn
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:45 PM
To: Duncan Charlton
Cc: Mike Piggot (new); FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] Six cylinder cams
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
I can tell you that I already have a GT6 with a good flexible power
band and good reliability. It lacks quickness=C2=A0however,=C2=A0due in par=
t to
the TR6 engine=C2=A0which is not highly tuned=C2=A0=C2=A0and I'm sure the g=
earing
could be better (3.27 rearend-Toyota T50 trans.)( Good for the
highway.)=C2=A0My old car is pretty much=C2=A0to the point where I don't wa=
nt
to do anything more to it=C2=A0so I want to move on to another
project.=C2=A0=C2=A0This time=C2=A0I want to build a car that snorts . I do=
however
need to put it on and off the trailer and I'm not thrilled about
breaking parts with max. RPMs so I can't afford to go all out.=C2=A0 I'm
looking for quickness through the gears and good handling.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
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On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Duncan Charlton wrote:
=C2=A0
Larry=E2=80=99s comments make me wonder the precise intended purpose of the=
engine mentioned by the original poster.=C2=A0 =E2=80=9CTrack days=E2=80=9D=
might mean
different things to different people.=C2=A0 Does P. J. want a good flexible=
power band, or does he need an ultimate dyno horsepower figure?=C2=A0 Does
the motor have the gear set to be able to take advantage of an engine
with very little low-end torque? How high among his priorities is the
ability to be able to drive the car back on the trailer at the end of
every track weekend?=C2=A0 Lack of sponsorship and cash prizes mean that I
must find the setup that maximizes the fun/cost ratio.
Duncan
> On Oct 31, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Larry Young wrote:
>
> That is an interesting article, but only speaks to one side of the
> issue.=C2=A0 I always say that you want to pick an intake duration for an=
> RPM range that you're willing and able to turn. We all know what
> happens to a stock TR4 crank which sees >6,000 on a regular basis.=C2=A0
> Some guys want a cam good beyond 7,000, but they are just not willing
> to push it that far. Nowadays I'm more of a street car guy, but still
> like to have power.=C2=A0 I don't believe the choices should be to do
> nothing or go all the way to race specs.=C2=A0 From 1968 on Triumphs were=
> severely detuned to pass emissions.=C2=A0 Compression ratio and duration
> and hence cam overlap at TDC were reduced.=C2=A0 For example, the early
> TR250/6 had 193 degrees duration (measured at 0.050), while the TR4
> was about 215 and the early PI TR5/6 was 226. It seems crazy to
> rebuild a street car of this era to the original specs.=C2=A0 Bumping the=
> compression ratio by a point and increasing the duration to something
> like 210-215 will make the engine the way it would have been without
> emission restrictions.=C2=A0 I would not feel guilty about polluting the
> planet, since most of these cars see few miles annually and most of
> the other pollution controls (e.g. ignition retard) probably quit
> working years ago.
> - Larry
>
> On 10/29/2015 7:25 AM, Duncan Charlton wrote:
>> Cam specs and static CR are interactive.=C2=A0 This will give you a
>> rundown if you are not already knowledgeable about this subject:
>>
>> http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Cam_and_compression_ratio_compat=
ibility
>>
>> Duncan
>> (Texas)
>>
>>
>
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<p>I definitely agree with this.=C2=A0 All my trailers have gotten winches<=
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<p>soon after purchase once I realized how useful they are.</p>
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<p>John<br><br>On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 19:59:45 -0400, Scott Janzen
<sjanzen@me.com> wrote:</p>
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<div>Agree with the winch. Especially useful for hauling broken cars on. On=
e of
the best things I did for my trailer.<br><br>Sent from my mobile device=C2=
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<div><br>On Oct 31, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Spitfire Racing <<a href=3D"mailto=
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what winches are made for. That=E2=80=99s the stuff that buggers clutches
also.</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family:
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font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Fot [<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"">mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <strong>On=
Behalf Of
</strong>McKearn McKearn<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Saturday, October 31, 20=
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6:45 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Duncan Charlton<br><strong>Cc:</strong> Mik=
e
Piggot (new); FOT list<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Fot] Six cylinder
cams</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I can tell you that I already have a GT6 with a good
flexible power band and good reliability. It lacks quickness=C2=A0however,=
=C2=A0due in
part to the TR6 engine=C2=A0which is not highly tuned=C2=A0=C2=A0and I'm su=
re the gearing
could be better (3.27 rearend-Toyota T50 trans.)( Good for the highway.)=C2=
=A0My old
car is pretty much=C2=A0to the point where I don't want to do anything more=
to
it=C2=A0so I want to move on to another project.=C2=A0=C2=A0This time=C2=A0=
I want to build a car
that snorts . I do however need to put it on and off the trailer and I'm no=
t
thrilled about breaking parts with max. RPMs so I can't afford to go all ou=
t.=C2=A0
I'm looking for quickness through the gears and good handling.=C2=A0</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Duncan Charlton <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">duncan.ch=
arlton54@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">Larry=E2=80=99s com=
ments make me
wonder the precise intended purpose of the engine mentioned by the original
poster.=C2=A0 =E2=80=9CTrack days=E2=80=9D might mean different things to d=
ifferent people.=C2=A0
Does P. J. want a good flexible power band, or does he need an ultimate dyn=
o
horsepower figure?=C2=A0 Does the motor have the gear set to be able to tak=
e
advantage of an engine with very little low-end torque? How high among his
priorities is the ability to be able to drive the car back on the trailer a=
t the
end of every track weekend?=C2=A0 Lack of sponsorship and cash prizes mean =
that I
must find the setup that maximizes the fun/cost
ratio.<br><br>Duncan<br><br><br>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Larry You=
ng
<<a href=3D"mailto:cartravel@pobox.com"; target=3D"">cartravel@pobox.com<=
/a>>
wrote:<br>><br>> That is an interesting article, but only speaks to o=
ne
side of the issue.=C2=A0 I always say that you want to pick an intake durat=
ion for
an RPM range that you're willing and able to turn. We all know what happens=
to a
stock TR4 crank which sees >6,000 on a regular basis.=C2=A0 Some guys wa=
nt a cam
good beyond 7,000, but they are just not willing to push it that far. Nowad=
ays
I'm more of a street car guy, but still like to have power.=C2=A0 I don't b=
elieve
the choices should be to do nothing or go all the way to race specs.=C2=A0 =
>From 1968
on Triumphs were severely detuned to pass emissions.=C2=A0 Compression rati=
o and
duration and hence cam overlap at TDC were reduced.=C2=A0 For example, the =
early
TR250/6 had 193 degrees duration (measured at 0.050), while the TR4 was abo=
ut
215 and the early PI TR5/6 was 226. It seems crazy to rebuild a street car =
of
this era to the original specs.=C2=A0 Bumping the compression ratio by a po=
int and
increasing the duration to something like 210-215 will make the engine the =
way
it would have been without emission restrictions.=C2=A0 I would not feel gu=
ilty
about polluting the planet, since most of these cars see few miles annually=
and
most of the other pollution controls (e.g. ignition retard) probably quit
working years ago.<br>> - Larry<br>><br>> On 10/29/2015 7:25 AM, D=
uncan
Charlton wrote:<br>>> Cam specs and static CR are interactive.=C2=A0 =
This will
give you a rundown if you are not already knowledgeable about this
subject:<br>>><br>>> <a href=3D"http://www.crankshaftcoalition.=
com/wiki/Cam_and_compression_ratio_compatibility" target=3D"_blank">http://=
www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Cam_and_compression_ratio_compatibility</a=
><br>>><br>>>
Duncan<br>>> (Texas)<br>>><br>>><br>><br>>
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