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Things definitely do move around some.
that is why a lot of clamping force is required and
I think that is why KW and Gaskacinch work well
as sealers.
On the other hand, Alfa heads, block and liners move
around even more and our race car=E2=80=99s engine has
survived many, many hours of abuse with a dry head
gasket. Go figure.
art de armond
From: davehogye=20
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 8:56 PM
To: Drews, Tony=20
Cc: Friends of Triumph=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] Liner Protrusion, TR-4
Go long, Tony. =20
I had .006-.007 on my motor. =20
I did a measurement test without a head gasket in place and the head =
on. I checked with a feeler gauge between the head and block as I =
torqued it incrementally.
It goes to zero pretty quick. I have notes on this, but they are not in =
front of me now. =20
Something is squishing/moving and I'm not sure what, but so far so good =
with 7 race events and a bunch of street use on this... my first TR =
motor build. With, I think around 2,500 miles on it now.
I "reused" copper figure 8 gaskets.
Dave H.
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From: "Tony Drews" <tony@tonydrews.com>
To: fot@autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 6:12:57 PM
Subject: [Fot] Liner Protrusion, TR-4
Quick question re: liner protrusion in a wet liner engine. My new=20
liners dry fitted with "stock" figure 8 gaskets (0.020" thick) have=20
0.010" protrusion. Too much, I know. So, I'm going to make my own=20
fig 8 gaskets out of shim stock. I have my choice between 0.015"=20
shim stock and 0.012" shim stock which would give either 0.005" or=20
0.002" protrusion dry. Any thoughts on which way I should go? I'm=20
assuming that when I put some goo on the fig 8 gaskets to ensure that=20
they seal that I'll get another thou or two protrusion so would go=20
with the 0.012" shim / 0.002" protrusion.
I'll be running the Cometic gasket with the fire rings.
TIA
Cheers, Tony Drews
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<DIV>Things definitely do move around some.</DIV>
<DIV>that is why a lot of clamping force is required and</DIV>
<DIV>I think that is why KW and Gaskacinch work well</DIV>
<DIV>as sealers.</DIV>
<DIV>On the other hand, Alfa heads, block and liners move</DIV>
<DIV>around even more and our race car=E2=80=99s engine has</DIV>
<DIV>survived many, many hours of abuse with a dry head</DIV>
<DIV>gasket. Go figure.</DIV>
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<DIV>art de armond</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 15, 2015 8:56 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Liner Protrusion, TR-4</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Go long, Tony. </DIV>
<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body"> </DIV>
<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">I had .006-.007 on my motor. =
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<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body"> </DIV>
<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">I did a measurement test without =
a head=20
gasket in place and the head on. I checked with a feeler gauge =
between the=20
head and block as I torqued it incrementally.</DIV>
<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">It goes to zero pretty quick. I =
have notes=20
on this, but they are not in front of me now. </DIV>
<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Something is squishing/moving and I'm =
not sure=20
what, but so far so good with 7 race events and a bunch of street use on =
this...=20
my first TR motor build. With, I think around 2,500 miles on it =
now.</DIV>
<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">I "reused" copper figure 8 =
gaskets.</DIV>
<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body"> </DIV>
<DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Dave H.</DIV>
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</B>"Tony Drews" <tony@tonydrews.com><BR><B>To:=20
</B>fot@autox.team.net<BR><B>Sent: </B>Tuesday, December 15, 2015 =
6:12:57=20
PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>[Fot] Liner Protrusion, TR-4<BR>
<DIV> </DIV>Quick question re: liner protrusion in a wet liner=20
engine. My new <BR>liners dry fitted with "stock" figure 8 gaskets =
(0.020"=20
thick) have <BR>0.010" protrusion. Too much, I know. So, I'm =
going=20
to make my own <BR>fig 8 gaskets out of shim stock. I have my =
choice=20
between 0.015" <BR>shim stock and 0.012" shim stock which would give =
either=20
0.005" or <BR>0.002" protrusion dry. Any thoughts on which way I =
should=20
go? I'm <BR>assuming that when I put some goo on the fig 8 gaskets =
to=20
ensure that <BR>they seal that I'll get another thou or two protrusion =
so would=20
go <BR>with the 0.012" shim / 0.002" protrusion.<BR>
<DIV> </DIV>I'll be running the Cometic gasket with the fire =
rings.<BR>
<DIV> </DIV>TIA<BR>
<DIV> </DIV>Cheers, Tony Drews<BR>
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