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Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube

To: "Barr, Scott" <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube
From: Bud Rolofson <levilevi@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 20:00:55 -0600
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My Spit did it too. I got the meatball flag so many times from oil on the he=
aders that it was ridiculous. Got so I'd look for it every lap.=20

At first I tried a spring to hold the dipstick down tight in the tube but it=
 still leaked. Then I tried to cap the dipstick tube with a silicon plug and=
 a silicon cap and held with a clamp but that leaked too.=20

The solution on my engine was not with the just the tube or dipstick it was i=
n venting the engine better on both the top and bottom end and adjusting the=
 spring load of the split on the dipstick.

I added a 1 inch ID hose venting the oil pan at the old mechanical fuel pump=
 opening and added a 1/2 inch ID hose to the valve cover so along with the s=
tock existing 3/8 inch hose on the valve cover I ended up with 1 7/8 inches o=
f hose vented to the required catch tank.

I also bent the split on the dipstick so that it was harder to pull out of t=
he tube and I replaced the felt gasket.

Extreme venting and spreading the dipstick cured the oil out the dipstick pr=
oblem on my engine and probably has helped avoid pushing oil out other place=
s. Plus the engine isn't having to overcome any buildup of bypass gas pressu=
res on the bottom. I hope.=20

Nice that the dipstick is still there for checking the oil and I don't have t=
o go look for it.

Plus I haven't seen the meatball flag in awhile.

Bud Rolofson


Sent from my Commodore 64

> On May 13, 2016, at 6:46 AM, Barr, Scott <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com> wrote:
>=20
> Yep, my Spit engines did the same to me (sans flames, in my case, so far a=
s I know).  They all have plugs instead of dipstick tubes and I have a squar=
e drive socket and specific length extension and shorty ratchet which work p=
erfectly to pull the plug and check the oil whether the header is red hot, c=
old or in between.
> =20
> But yeah, we were talking about a TR6 originally =E2=80=93 other side and w=
ithout the crank shooting oil up the tube with every revolution=E2=80=A6
> =20
> Scott B.
> =20
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Dalziel
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 7:45 PM
> To: Jason Ostrowski <jason@multivintage.com>
> Cc: FOT List <fot@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube
> =20
> Long. Long ago ,(1992 ) My 1147. With accusump could pump oil up the dipst=
ick tube.=20
> Raise the dipstick it's self and blow back on the header wrap. Where it wo=
uld burn off like a wick.
> Corner workers thought they saw fire ( they did ) but it was out by the ti=
me I got back to pit lane.=20
> It took two sessions to discover that.
> It is interesting to sit in pit lane . Engine running.=20
> My helmet and earplugs
> Blocking all speech and watching my one man crew argue with the pit marsha=
l=20
> To not discharge the dry extinguisher as there was no fire.  And even more=
 amazing how compleat the lack of air is when that power cloud hits you !
> The quick fix at the track was to plug the dipstick hole , and free up mor=
e breather space. =20
> Now I have a hex plug .
> I only check it when the pipes are cold. I can learn things. After a while=
.=20
> It's been 25 years now that plug works great
>=20
> Awrabest.   Scottie
>=20
> On May 12, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Jason Ostrowski <jason@multivintage.com> wrot=
e:
>=20
> The 6 cylinder configuration we are talking about here has all that stuff o=
n the opposite side.
> So, it has nothing of the sort in the way.
> Anyway, Like I said "to each his own"
> Both options allow for the hole to be closed and the oil to be checked.
> One of my race cars is yellow and the other is green.
> I love them both the same.
>=20
>=20
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing .
>=20
>=20
> =20
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Rocky Entriken <rocky@spitfire4.com> wrot=
e:
> Is it a race car? Of course it requires tools. there=E2=80=99s all kinds o=
f things you simply never bother with on a street car (or leave to the mecha=
nic) for which you need/want tools on a race car.
> =20
> That dipstick tube is a street car item (and the stock exhaust manifold is=
 not in the way). My race car has headers (which are in the way), an oil coo=
ler, Accusump, remote oil filter, baffled pan, an oil pump with a filter scr=
een, exterior (steel-braided) plumbing a street car does not have (and which=
 has its own special wrenches), and 7.5 quarts of not-street-legal synthetic=
 oil. Not gonna get married to a street-car item like a frickin=E2=80=99  ti=
n tube sticking out of the engine block.
> =20
> --Rocky
> =20
> From: Steven Belfer
> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:27 AM
> To: rjl@gt-classics.com
> Cc: Robert Lang ; FOT List ; Rocky Entriken
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube
> =20
> Really? It seems to be a pretty good invention in its designated place. Ch=
ecking the oil level shouldn't require tools.=20
>=20
> ~Steve
> =20
>=20
> On May 12, 2016, at 5:24 AM, R. John Lye <rjl@gt-classics.com> wrote:
>=20
> I second that suggestion.  That's what I did as well.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> John
>=20
> On Wed, 11 May 2016 21:44:49 -0500, Rocky Entriken <rocky@spitfire4.com> w=
rote:
>=20
> Option 2.
> =20
> All you need is a plug. Best kind is one where the hex head is actually sm=
aller than the plug, so you can reach it with a socket extension and remove i=
t easily when the headers are still hot.
> =20
> My dipstick is a toolbox item. My two race engines have the dipstick tubes=
 removed ... on purpose.
> =20
> --Rocky Entriken
> =20
> =20
> From: Robert Lang
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:21 PM
> To: FOT List
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube
> =20
> Hi,
> =20
> I somehow managed to lose the dip stick tube for my latest engine. So, wha=
t's the consensus:
> =20
> 1. fabricate a tube from some aluminum
> 2. drill / tap the block for an AN fitting and fab up a dip stick of the p=
roper length
> =20
> ???
> =20
> In other words, I'm looking for suggestions.
> =20
> Oddly, three engine block cores and no dip stick tubes. What's up with tha=
t?
> =20
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
> 339-927-449
> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>My Spit did it too. I got the meatball=
 flag so many times from oil on the headers that it was ridiculous. Got so I=
'd look for it every lap.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></di=
v><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">At first I tried a spring to hold the dipst=
ick down tight in the tube but it still leaked. Then I tried to cap the dips=
tick tube with a silicon plug and a silicon cap and held with a clamp but th=
at leaked too.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D=
"AppleMailSignature">The solution on my engine was not with the just the tub=
e or dipstick it was in venting the engine better on both the top and bottom=
 end and adjusting the spring load of the split on the dipstick.</div><div i=
d=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">I added a 1=
 inch ID hose venting the oil pan at the old mechanical fuel pump opening an=
d added a 1/2 inch ID hose to the valve cover so along with the stock existi=
ng 3/8 inch hose on the valve cover I ended up with 1 7/8 inches of hose ven=
ted to the required catch tank.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></di=
v><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">I also bent the split on the dipstick so th=
at it was harder to pull out of the tube and I replaced the felt gasket.</di=
v><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Ex=
treme venting and spreading the dipstick cured the oil out the dipstick prob=
lem on my engine and probably has helped avoid pushing oil out other places.=
 Plus the engine isn't having to overcome any buildup of bypass gas pressure=
s on the bottom. I hope.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div=
><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Nice that the dipstick is still there for ch=
ecking the oil and I don't have to go look for it.</div><div id=3D"AppleMail=
Signature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Plus I haven't seen the m=
eatball flag in awhile.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div i=
d=3D"AppleMailSignature">Bud Rolofson</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><b=
r><br>Sent from my Commodore 64</div><div><br>On May 13, 2016, at 6:46 AM, B=
arr, Scott &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sbarr@mccarty-law.com";>sbarr@McCarty-Law.co=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Yep, my Spit engines did the same to me=
 (sans flames, in my case, so far as I know).&nbsp; They all have plugs inst=
ead of dipstick tubes and I have a square drive
 socket and specific length extension and shorty ratchet which work perfectl=
y to pull the plug and check the oil whether the header is red hot, cold or i=
n between.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">But yeah, we were talking about a TR6 o=
riginally =E2=80=93 other side and without the crank shooting oil up the tub=
e with every revolution=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Scott B.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cal=
ibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0=
in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Fot [<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounce=
s@autox.team.net">mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Dalziel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 12, 2016 7:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jason Ostrowski &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jason@multivintage.com";>jas=
on@multivintage.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> FOT List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team=
.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Long. Long ago ,(1992 ) My 1147. With accusump could p=
ump oil up the dipstick tube.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Raise the dipstick it's self and blow back on the hea=
der wrap. Where it would burn off like a wick.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Corner workers thought they saw fire ( they did ) but=
 it was out by the time I got back to pit lane.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It took two sessions to discover that.<o:p></o:p></p>=

</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It is interesting to sit in pit lane . Engine running=
.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">My helmet and earplugs<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Blocking all speech and watching my one man crew argu=
e with the pit marshal&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">To not discharge the dry extinguisher as there was no=
 fire. &nbsp;And even more amazing how compleat the lack of air is when that=
 power cloud hits you !<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The quick fix at the track was to plug the dipstick h=
ole , and free up more breather space. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Now I have a hex plug .<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I only check it when the pipes are cold. I can learn t=
hings. After a while.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It's been 25 years now that plug works great<br>
<br>
Awrabest. &nbsp; Scottie<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On May 12, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Jason Ostrowski &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jason@mul=
tivintage.com">jason@multivintage.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The 6 cylinder configuration we are talking about her=
e has all that stuff on the opposite side.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So, it has nothing of the sort in the way.<o:p></o:p>=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Anyway, Like I said "to each his own"<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Both options allow for the hole to be closed and the o=
il to be checked.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">One of my race cars is yellow and the other is green.=
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I love them both the same.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jason Ostrowski<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Friendly Ghost Racing&nbsp;.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Rocky Entriken &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com"; target=3D"_blank">rocky@spitfire4.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in=
 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">Is it a race car? Of course it requires tools. there=E2=80=
=99s all kinds of things you simply never bother with on a street car (or le=
ave to the mechanic) for which you need/want tools
 on a race car.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">That dipstick tube is a street car item (and the stock exh=
aust manifold is not in the way). My race car has headers (which
<u>are</u> in the way), an oil cooler, Accusump, remote oil filter, baffled p=
an, an oil pump with a filter screen, exterior (steel-braided) plumbing a st=
reet car does not have (and which has its own special wrenches), and 7.5 qua=
rts of not-street-legal synthetic
 oil. Not gonna get married to a street-car item like a frickin=E2=80=99&nbs=
p; tin tube sticking out of the engine block.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">--Rocky<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tah=
oma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:</=
span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans=
-serif;color:black">
<a href=3D"mailto:steve@artwithcars.com"; target=3D"_blank" title=3D"steve@ar=
twithcars.com">
Steven Belfer</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Sent:</=
span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans=
-serif;color:black"> Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:27 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">To:</sp=
an></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">
<a href=3D"mailto:rjl@gt-classics.com"; target=3D"_blank" title=3D"rjl@gt-cla=
ssics.com">
rjl@gt-classics.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Cc:</sp=
an></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">
<a href=3D"mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com"; target=3D"_blank" title=3D"robert=
langtr6@yahoo.com">
Robert Lang</a> ; <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" ti=
tle=3D"fot@autox.team.net">
FOT List</a> ; <a href=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com"; target=3D"_blank" titl=
e=3D"rocky@spitfire4.com">
Rocky Entriken</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Subject=
:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,s=
ans-serif;color:black"> Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">Really? It seems to be a pretty good invention in its desi=
gnated place. Checking the oil level shouldn't require tools.
<br>
<br>
~Steve <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><br>
On May 12, 2016, at 5:24 AM, R. John Lye &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rjl@gt-classi=
cs.com" target=3D"_blank">rjl@gt-classics.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I s=
econd that suggestion.&nbsp; That's what I did as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&n=
bsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Jo=
hn<br>
<br>
On Wed, 11 May 2016 21:44:49 -0500, Rocky Entriken &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:roc=
ky@spitfire4.com" target=3D"_blank">rocky@spitfire4.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0=
in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bot=
tom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">Option 2.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">All you need is a plug. Best kind is one where the hex hea=
d is actually smaller than the plug, so you can reach it with a socket exten=
sion and remove it easily when the headers
 are still hot.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">My dipstick is a toolbox item. My two race engines have th=
e dipstick tubes removed ... on purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">--Rocky Entriken<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tah=
oma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><strong><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">From:=
</span></strong><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quo=
t;,sans-serif;color:black">
<a href=3D"mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com"; target=3D"_blank" title=3D"robert=
langtr6@yahoo.com">
Robert Lang</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><strong><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Sen=
t:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&q=
uot;,sans-serif;color:black"> Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:21
 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><strong><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">To:=
</span></strong><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quo=
t;,sans-serif;color:black">
<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" title=3D"fot@autox.t=
eam.net">FOT List</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke"><strong><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Sub=
ject:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"> Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick
 Tube<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">I somehow managed to lose the=
 dip stick tube for my latest engine. So, what's the consensus:<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">1. fabricate a tube from some=
 aluminum<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">2. drill / tap the block for a=
n AN fitting and fab up a dip stick of the proper length<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">???<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">In other words, I'm looking f=
or suggestions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Oddly, three engine block cor=
es and no dip stick tubes. What's up with that?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Bob Lang<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">339-927-449<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
</div>
</div>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&n=
bsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
<hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center">
</span></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">___________________________=
____________________<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</=
a><br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.fot-racing.com"; target=3D"_blank">http://www.fot-racin=
g.com</a><br>
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/www.team.net/donate.html</a><br>
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ky@spitfire4.com" target=3D"_blank">
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky@spitfire4.com</a><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">gines haved the dipstock<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
<hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center">
</span></div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</=
a><br>
<br>
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><br>
@gt-classics.com">
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl@gt-classics.com</a><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&q=
uot;,sans-serif;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><b=
r>
--<br>
Thanks,<br>
John<br>
<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:rjl@gt-classics.com"; target=3D"_blank">rjl@gt-classics.com=
</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">&n=
bsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</blockquote>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">___________________________=
____________________<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</=
a><br>
<br>
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g.com</a><br>
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ve@artwithcars.com" target=3D"_blank">
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steve@artwithcars.com</a><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:black">terior (steel-b raided_ p-lumbkijngb<o:p></o:p></span></p>=

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_______________________________________________<br>
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<br>
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on@multivintage.com" target=3D"_blank">
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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