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Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 front end conversion to TR6 parts: Camber - moving the ball joint inward
From: Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@Live.com>
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 14:40:36 -0700
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Dan,

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That is going to be an overly aggressive start point for me, but if I =
can=E2=80=99t get where I want to go, with simpler mods you may hear =
from me.

=20

Jack

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From: Dan Cronin [mailto:adcronin@mi.rr.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:45 PM
To: davehogye <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Cc: Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@Live.com>; Friends of Triumph =
<fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 front end conversion to TR6 parts: Camber - =
moving the ball joint inward

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If anyone is interested, I have a un-used revington unit for sale.=20

Sent from my iPhone


On May 21, 2016, at 7:17 AM, davehogye <dlhogye@comcast.net =

Hi Jack,

RevingtonTR sells an adjustable inner fulcrum pin.  I have one on my TR3 =
and I know of a few others that use it as well.  No cutting and or =
welding is needed.=20

It has been suggested that keeping the upper arms long is beneficial.

=20

// Dave H.

=20


  _____ =20


Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:34:14 PM
Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end conversion to TR6 parts: Camber - moving =
the        ball joint inward

=20

I am hoping to upgrade the front suspension on my (street/AutoX) TR3 =
this summer by changing out the upper A-arm, vertical link and trunnion =
to TR6 parts.  I will use =E2=80=9Cthe=E2=80=9D Jag ball joint and shim =
it as required.  Due to the complexity of shortening the upper A-arm or =
moving the inner pivot point inward, I am considering welding an =
extension to the upper A-Arm ball joint mounting tabs on the inside to =
mount the ball joint further inward and produce a similar result to =
shortening the A-arm.  I have not removed my TR3 A-Arms yet, but it =
appears there is room to move the ball joint inward at least an inch in =
this way.  I know I can=E2=80=99t go as far as those of you who have =
shortened the upper arms, but it seems like it could be a decent =
compromise.  I am concerned though, as this seems too easy.  None of you =
guys have done it. Instead you have shortening the upper arms which, =
from what I have read, is challenging, as is moving the inner pivot =
point and retaining substantial structure.

=20

So, the question is. . . . . . . Why is simply moving the ball joint =
further inboard not a good solution?  What am I missing?



=20

Thanks in advance,

=20

Jack


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link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Dan,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>That is going to be an overly aggressive =
start point for me, but if I can=E2=80=99t get where I want to go, with =
simpler mods you may hear from me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Jack<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Dan Cronin =
[mailto:adcronin@mi.rr.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:45 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> davehogye &lt;dlhogye@comcast.net&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Jack Brooks &lt;JIBrooks@Live.com&gt;; Friends of Triumph =
&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] TR3 front end =
conversion to TR6 parts: Camber - moving the ball joint =
inward<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>If =
anyone is interested, I have a un-used revington unit for =
sale.&nbsp;<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On May 21, 2016, at =
7:17 AM, davehogye &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net";>dlhogye@comcast.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hi =
Jack,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>RevingtonTR sells =
an adjustable inner fulcrum pin. &nbsp;I have one on my TR3 and I know =
of a few others that use it as well. &nbsp;No cutting and or welding is =
needed.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>It has been =
suggested that keeping the upper arms long is =
beneficial.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>// Dave =
H.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=3D2 =
width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter id=3Dzwchr></span></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>From: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>&quot;Jack =
Brooks&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:JIBrooks@live.com";>JIBrooks@Live.com</a>&gt;<br><b>To: =
</b><a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Sent: =
</b>Friday, May 20, 2016 10:34:14 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[Fot] TR3 front =
end conversion to TR6 parts: Camber - moving =
the&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ball joint =
inward<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'>I am hoping to upgrade the front suspension on =
my (street/AutoX) TR3 this summer by changing out the upper A-arm, =
vertical link and trunnion to TR6 parts.&nbsp; I will use =
=E2=80=9Cthe=E2=80=9D Jag ball joint and shim it as required.&nbsp; Due =
to the complexity of shortening the upper A-arm or moving the inner =
pivot point inward, I am considering welding an extension to the upper =
A-Arm ball joint mounting tabs on the inside to mount the ball joint =
further inward and produce a similar result to shortening the =
A-arm.&nbsp; I have not removed my TR3 A-Arms yet, but it appears there =
is room to move the ball joint inward at least an inch in this =
way.&nbsp; I know I can=E2=80=99t go as far as those of you who have =
shortened the upper arms, but it seems like it could be a decent =
compromise.&nbsp; I am concerned though, as this seems too easy.&nbsp; =
None of you guys have done it. Instead you have shortening the upper =
arms which, from what I have read, is challenging, as is moving the =
inner pivot point and retaining substantial structure.</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'>So, the question is. . . . . . . Why is simply =
moving the ball joint further inboard not a good solution?&nbsp; What am =
I missing?<br><br></span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:black'>Thanks in advance,</span><span =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
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