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Re: [Fot] Planning for Triumphs and Personnel with Sebring History

To: Bob Kramer <rkramer3@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Planning for Triumphs and Personnel with Sebring History
From: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:53:33 -0500
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Bob,

I might be able to get you his contact information from the author of =
several books on racing Morgans.  I asked him if he still has the =
contact info and if he=E2=80=99ll share it.  I hear T. J. is retired and =
in Florida.

Duncan Charlton
Elgin, Texas USA



> On Aug 25, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Bob Kramer <rkramer3@austin.rr.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> My TR4 was a privateer car campaigned by Joe Hines Jr. He ran it at =
both Daytona and Sebring in 1967 with co-drivers Wilber Pickett, Whit =
Tharin,  C.C Canada and T.J. Kelly. Joe Hines is racing in the clouds. I =
talked to him back when I bought the car and he provided me with a few =
period pictures and some background. He ran the car just one year and =
continued on with other cars. He ran a few time in the Daytona 500. T.J. =
Kelly was a long time Morgan racer but I haven=E2=80=99t been able to =
locate him. Wilber Pickett has a long racing resume and he even shared a =
car with Bob Tullius at some point. C.C Canada was around a bit too. =
Does anyone know of the whereabouts of any of these drivers?
> =20
> Bob
> =20
> Plans are being made to be at Amelia Island and Sebring 12 Hour in =
March 2017.
> =20
> The plan so far is to have the:
> =20
> 57 Sebring TR3 from the UK
> 63 Sebring TR4 from the UK
> TR250K that ran in the late 60s
> Bob Kramer's Sebring TR4
> =20
> Russ Pierce plans to bring the Macau.
> =20
> HSR is the sanctioning body and will have the schedule and entry =
information.
> =20
> Lodging is an issue and should be pursued early on.
> =20
> (I plan to stay at the track)
> =20
> There are no designated project people leading the charge on this. =
Hopefully, the FOT attending will share information and provide support =
to each other.
> =20
> It is quite possible that the original drivers will attend along with =
Kas and Peg. I am hoping that the current car owners will extend those =
invitations to Bob Tullius, Ed Diehl, and Bob Johns.
> =20
> I AM looking for a means to get Kas & Peg there and to secure lodging. =
Any ideas are welcome.
> =20
> Potentially, this could be one of the most significant Triumph Vintage =
Reunions of current times. Tim Suddard called. I know he is interested =
in covering it. Burt Levy is also interested.
> =20
> And then there is the Kastner Cup in June. The U.K. Triumphs will be =
shipped there to Black Hawk Farms to run the Kastner Cup. How cool is =
that?
> =20
> Anyway, I hope the Amelia and Sebring events gain great traction. I =
suspect that it will. There is no doubt that the 15th Running of the =
Kastner Cup will be huge. (Hosted by Brian Garcia and Jason Ostrowski.)
> =20
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class=3D"">Bob,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I =
might be able to get you his contact information from the author of =
several books on racing Morgans. &nbsp;I asked him if he still has the =
contact info and if he=E2=80=99ll share it. &nbsp;I hear T. J. is =
retired and in Florida.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">Duncan Charlton</div><div class=3D"">Elgin, Texas =
USA</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">

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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Aug 25, 2016, at 11:48 AM, Bob Kramer &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com"; =
class=3D"">rkramer3@austin.rr.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">My TR4 was a privateer car campaigned by =
Joe Hines Jr. He ran it at both Daytona and Sebring in 1967 with =
co-drivers Wilber Pickett, Whit Tharin, &nbsp;C.C Canada and T.J. Kelly. =
Joe Hines is racing in the clouds. I talked to him back when I bought =
the car and he provided me with a few period pictures and some =
background. He ran the car just one year and continued on with other =
cars. He ran a few time in the Daytona 500. T.J. Kelly was a long time =
Morgan racer but I haven=E2=80=99t been able to locate him. Wilber =
Pickett has a long racing resume and he even shared a car with Bob =
Tullius at some point. C.C Canada was around a bit too. Does anyone know =
of the whereabouts of any of these drivers?<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Bob<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Plans are being made to be at Amelia =
Island and Sebring 12 Hour in March 2017.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">The plan so far is to have the:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">57 Sebring TR3 from the UK<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">63 Sebring TR4 from the UK<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">TR250K that ran in the late 60s<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D"">Bob Kramer's Sebring TR4<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D"">Russ Pierce plans to bring the Macau.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">HSR is the sanctioning body and will have =
the schedule and entry information.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D"">Lodging is an issue and should be pursued early =
on.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:=
 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">(I plan to stay at =
the track)<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D"">There are no designated project people leading the =
charge on this. Hopefully, the FOT attending will share information and =
provide support to each other.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D"">It is quite possible that the original drivers will =
attend along with Kas and Peg. I am hoping that the current car owners =
will extend those invitations to Bob Tullius, Ed Diehl, and Bob =
Johns.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D"">I AM looking for a means to get Kas &amp; Peg there =
and to secure lodging. Any ideas are welcome.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">Potentially, this could be one of the =
most significant Triumph Vintage Reunions of current times. Tim Suddard =
called. I know he is interested in covering it. Burt Levy is also =
interested.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D"">And then there is the Kastner Cup in June. The U.K. =
Triumphs will be shipped there to Black Hawk Farms to run the Kastner =
Cup. How cool is that?<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
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0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D"">Anyway, I hope the Amelia and Sebring events gain =
great traction. I suspect that it will. There is no doubt that the 15th =
Running of the Kastner Cup will be huge. (Hosted by Brian Garcia and =
Jason Ostrowski.)<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
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