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To: 'Sam Halkias' <atr6racer@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: FW: broken axle
From: Diesel Performance Parts - Mark <info@dieselperformanceparts.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 10:32:44 -0500
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Sam,

I always replace the cup and the cone. Used to work for Federal Mogul AKA B=
ower BCA in the 80's, I have seen way way too many issues with doing it hal=
f way.

I don't see how I can set any pre load. There isn't any adjustment I can de=
al with, that I can see. Can you explain, maybe I am dumber than I thought?=
? LOL!!

Mark Craig
Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
411 Allied Drive
Nashville, TN 37211
866-455-7788 Phone
615-834-9923 Fax

www.dieselperformanceparts.com<http://www.dieselperformanceparts.com>

From: Sam Halkias [mailto:atr6racer@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 8:50 AM
To: Diesel Performance Parts - Mark <info@dieselperformanceparts.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: FW: broken axle

You need to get the pre-load right on those axles. Hard to explain but ther=
e needs to be a little drag on the bearing once assembled.  Also change the=
 race with new bearings.

Sam

Sam Halkias
Halkias Performance Services
614-582-0232

On Oct 4, 2016, at 4:59 AM, Diesel Performance Parts - Mark <info@dieselper=
Sam,

Ok good intel thanks.
On mine the axle bearings always seem loose in relation to the axle and bea=
ring rolling elements. I have replaced the bearings a couple of times and w=
hile on the lift it seems tighter. Then you run a couple of races and it's =
is the same amount of looseness again.  One side seems to be looser than th=
e other too, by hand feel no scientific measuring.

Am I chicken since my 4 roll axle failure, or is this normal by  your stand=
ards?? I have Sommers Bros axles in another car and they seem to stay tight=
er and evenly the same from left to right.

Mark Craig
Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
411 Allied Drive
Nashville, TN 37211
866-455-7788 Phone
615-834-9923 Fax

www.dieselperformanceparts.com<http://www.dieselperformanceparts.com>

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Sam Halkias
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 8:42 PM
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: broken axle



It is a Corvair axle. Problem I see is the flange broke, not the axle. I su=
spect you had excessive run out on the flange, and the torque of the lugs m=
ay have stressed it. Never had anything like this in 40 years. Still use th=
e Corvair set up in my Vintage sixes, no issues. Good parts makes a better =
set upon you wish to upgrade, but the Corvair set up should be fine, just m=
ake sure you magna flux and check the runout, after all they are 50 years o=
ld!

Sam

Sam Halkias
Halkias Performance Services
614-582-0232

On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Diesel Performance Parts - Mark <info@dieselper=
That looks like the old style modified Corvair axle to me. I got one set on=
 a car too, sort of makes me uneasy now.........

Mark Craig
Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
411 Allied Drive
Nashville, TN 37211
866-455-7788 Phone
615-834-9923 Fax

www.dieselperformanceparts.com<http://www.dieselperformanceparts.com>

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dustin Nicholson
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] broken axle

Duncan, not a lot more to tell about the axle unless you saw something I di=
dn't. It was a used competition axle that I got almost three race weekends =
out of. Unknown brand but larger diameter shaft than stock and one piece de=
sign. It's funny, I guess I have a better track record racing with stock ax=
les than upgraded ones.

The incident itself was uneventful, braking hard and down shifting for a sl=
ow turn after a long straight. The right rear corner dropped a couple inche=
s turning me sideways then I slid off track left. I could see my wheel keep=
 going several hundred feet. When I came to a stop I chuckled and thought t=
hat's just part of this sport. Easy to laugh about it when no people or car=
s where hurt... much.

Photos attached.

Dusty



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Date: 10/3/16 9:09 AM (GMT-06:00)
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Subject: Re: [Fot] Toyo R888 - tyre pressures?

C'mon, Dusty, tell the rest of the news about the broken axle...

Duncan Charlton
Elgin, Texas USA



On Oct 3, 2016, at 7:14 AM, Dustin Nicholson <nicholsondustin@yahoo.com<mai=
lto:nicholsondustin@yahoo.com>> wrote:

I tried a couple of different pressures this weekend at MSR - Houston . My =
best times were with a cold tire pressure of 28, hot was about five degrees=
 higher.

In other news, I broken an axle on turn 11 and got to watch my right rear t=
ire make it all the way to turn 13! Spitfire breaking and axle? Same old st=
ory, new Storyteller.

Dusty



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

-------- Original message --------
Date: 9/28/16 8:42 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Fot] Toyo R888 - tyre pressures?

That's consistent with what I've found with the R888 pressures.

I am faster with R888s but that's likely due to going from 60s to 50s.

Sent from my iPhone

ook.com>> wrote:
I believe the website says 32-38 hot with temps 160-220.

Be curious to hear what others say. I think my car is faster on the Hoosier=
s.

Wish I was going to COTA with you guys in Nov.

Sent from my iPhone

list@mackenzie.aero>> wrote:
What cold tyre pressures are you using for the R888s?

The car is a '62 Spitfire - 1425 Lbs with 5.5x13 wheels  The tyres have bee=
n shaved and heat cycled.

I have heard that they work best hot in the low 40 psi range and you should=
 start off at 33-35 psi.

Looking for others thoughts and experiences.

Thanks


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erif;color:#1F497D'>I always replace the cup and the cone. Used to work for=
 Federal Mogul AKA Bower BCA in the 80&#8217;s, I have seen way way too man=
y issues with doing it half way. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F=
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size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I don&#8217;t s=
ee how I can set any pre load. There isn&#8217;t any adjustment I can deal =
with, that I can see. Can you explain, maybe I am dumber than I thought?? L=
OL!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.=
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11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Sam Halkias [mailto:atr6ra=
cer@hotmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 04, 2016 8:50 AM<br><b>T=
o:</b> Diesel Performance Parts - Mark &lt;info@dieselperformanceparts.com&=
gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Fwd: FW: broken axle<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal>You need to get the pre-load right on those axles. Hard to explain but=
 there needs to be a little drag on the bearing once assembled. &nbsp;Also =
change the race with new bearings.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailS=
ignature><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMai=
lSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Sam&nbsp;<o:=
p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal>Sam Halkias&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal>Halkias Performance Services<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal>614-582-0232<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Oct 4, 2016, at 4:59 AM, Diesel Performanc=
e Parts - Mark &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:info@dieselperformanceparts.com";>info@=
dieselperformanceparts.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote s=
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an style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D=
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:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Ok good intel thanks. </span><o:p></o:p></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri=
",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>On mine the axle bearings always seem loose in =
relation to the axle and bearing rolling elements. I have replaced the bear=
ings a couple of times and while on the lift it seems tighter. Then you run=
 a couple of races and it&#8217;s is the same amount of looseness again. &n=
bsp;One side seems to be looser than the other too, by hand feel no scienti=
fic measuring. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span=
><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Am I chicken since my 4 roll axle=
 failure, or is this normal by&nbsp; your standards?? I have Sommers Bros a=
xles in another car and they seem to stay tighter and evenly the same from =
left to right. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span=
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p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",=
sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Diesel Performance Parts, INC.</span><o:p></o:p><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial"=
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f Of </b>Sam Halkias<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 03, 2016 8:42 PM<br><b=
>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><br><b=
>Subject:</b> [Fot] Fwd: FW: broken axle</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
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p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-botto=
m:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>It is a Corvair axle. Problem I see=
 is the flange broke, not the axle. I suspect you had excessive run out on =
the flange, and the torque of the lugs may have stressed it. Never had anyt=
hing like this in 40 years. Still use the Corvair set up in my Vintage sixe=
s, no issues. Good parts makes a better set upon you wish to upgrade, but t=
he Corvair set up should be fine, just make sure you magna flux and check t=
he runout, after all they are 50 years old!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DA=
ppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=
=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>S=
am<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Sam Halkias&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal>Halkias Performance Services<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D=
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Diesel Perfo=
rmance Parts - Mark &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:info@dieselperformanceparts.com";>=
info@dieselperformanceparts.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockqu=
ote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1=
F497D'>That looks like the old style modified Corvair axle to me. I got one=
 set on a car too, sort of makes me uneasy now&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</span><=
o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
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 class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans=
-serif;color:#1F497D'>Mark Craig</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
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</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>615-834-9923 Fax</span><o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMso=
Normal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color=
:#1F497D'><a href=3D"http://www.dieselperformanceparts.com";><span style=3D'=
color:#0563C1'>www.dieselperformanceparts.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p><=
/p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div st=
yle=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in=
'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cali=
bri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Fot [<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"=
>mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dustin Nicholso=
n<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 03, 2016 11:41 AM<br><b>To:</b> Duncan Ch=
arlton &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com";>duncan.charlton54=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.ne=
t</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] broken axle</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><=
/div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Du=
ncan, not a lot more to tell about the axle unless you saw something I didn=
't. It was a used competition axle that I got almost three race weekends ou=
t of. Unknown brand but larger diameter shaft than stock and one piece desi=
gn. It's funny, I guess I have a better track record racing with stock axle=
s than upgraded ones.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<=
o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The incident itself was uneve=
ntful, braking hard and down shifting for a slow turn after a long straight=
. The right rear corner dropped a couple inches turning me sideways then I =
slid off track left. I could see my wheel keep going several hundred feet. =
When I came to a stop I chuckled and thought that's just part of this sport=
. Easy to laugh about it when no people or cars where hurt... much.<o:p></o=
:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal>Photos attached.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Dusty<o:p></o:p><=
/p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:=
p></o:p></p></div><div id=3D"composer_signature"><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757'>Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE=
 Device</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o=
:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:blac=
k'>-------- Original message --------</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>From: Duncan Charlton &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com";>duncan.charlton54@gmail.com</a>&g=
t; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'col=
or:black'>Date: 10/3/16 9:09 AM (GMT-06:00) </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>To: Dustin Nicholson &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:nicholsondustin@yahoo.com";>nicholsondustin@yahoo.com</a>=
&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'c=
olor:black'>Cc: Greg Blake &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com";>gb=
lake58tr3@icloud.com</a>&gt;, D V &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:explore8@outlook.co=
m">explore8@outlook.com</a>&gt;, FOT list &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.t=
eam.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Subject: Re: [Fot] Toyo R888 - t=
yre pressures? </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMs=
oNormal>C&#8217;mon, Dusty, tell the rest of the news about the broken axle=
&#8230;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Duncan Charlton<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal>Elgin, Texas USA<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style=3D'margin=
-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Oct 3, 2016, a=
t 7:14 AM, Dustin Nicholson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nicholsondustin@yahoo.com=
">nicholsondustin@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DM=
soNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D=
'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I tried a couple of di=
fferent pressures this weekend at MSR - Houston . My best times were with a=
 cold tire pressure of 28, hot was about five degrees higher.&nbsp;</span><=
o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0p=
t;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetic=
a",sans-serif'>In other news, I broken an axle on turn 11 and got to watch =
my right rear tire make it all the way to turn 13! Spitfire breaking and ax=
le? Same old story, new Storyteller.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica"=
,sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Dusty</spa=
n><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9=
.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helve=
tica",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&nbsp=
;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3D"composer_signature"><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-se=
rif;color:#575757'>Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device</span><o:p></o:p></p=
></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-=
family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica"=
,sans-serif'>-------- Original message --------</span><o:p></o:p></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helve=
tica",sans-serif'>From: Greg Blake &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud=
.com"><span style=3D'color:purple'>gblake58tr3@icloud.com</span></a>&gt;<sp=
an class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvet=
ica",sans-serif'>Date: 9/28/16 8:42 PM (GMT-06:00)<span class=3Dapple-conve=
rted-space>&nbsp;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>To: D=
 V &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:explore8@outlook.com";><span style=3D'color:purple'=
>explore8@outlook.com</span></a>&gt;<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nb=
sp;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Cc: FOT list &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";><span style=3D'color:purple'>fot@autox.=
team.net</span></a>&gt;<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></s=
pan><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size=
:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Subject: Re: [Fot] Toyo R888 - t=
yre pressures?<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvet=
ica",sans-serif'>That's consistent with what I've found with the R888 press=
ures.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I am faster with R888s but that's likely =
due to going from 60s to 50s.&nbsp;<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</span><o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br>On Sep =
28, 2016, at 2:32 PM, D V &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:explore8@outlook.com";><span=
 style=3D'color:purple'>explore8@outlook.com</span></a>&gt; wrote:</span><o=
:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0p=
t;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-we=
bkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I beli=
eve the website says 32-38 hot with temps 160-220.</span><o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Be=
 curious to hear what others say. I think my car is faster on the Hoosiers.=
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><=
/div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"=
Helvetica",sans-serif'>Wish I was going to COTA with you guys in Nov.<br><b=
r>Sent from my iPhone</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"=
Helvetica",sans-serif'><br>On Sep 28, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Robert MacKenzie &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:list@mackenzie.aero";><span style=3D'color:purple'>list=
@mackenzie.aero</span></a>&gt; wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquot=
e style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>What=
 cold tyre pressures are you using for the R888s?</span><o:p></o:p></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The c=
ar is a '62 Spitfire - 1425 Lbs with 5.5x13 wheels&nbsp; The tyres have bee=
n shaved and heat cycled.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp=
;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I have heard that they work b=
est hot in the low 40 psi range and you should start off at 33-35 psi.</spa=
n><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:1=
1.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif'>Looking for others thoughts and experiences.</span><o:p></o=
:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-s=
erif'>Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",san=
s-serif'>Robert MacKenzie</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:robert@mackenzie.aero";><span style=3D'color:purple'>robert@mac=
kenzie.aero</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</=
span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp=
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