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Re: [Fot] Early Block

To: Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Early Block
From: dustin nicholson via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 16:33:36 +0000 (UTC)
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 Hi Joe,

I could be interested in your TR2 block and any other drive train bits that=
 go with it.
I have the very sad hulk of TS 1037LO (TR2 long door square tail lights) in=
cluding the frame, very rough body panels, and a few random bits.=C2=A0 I d=
o not have the tub or drive train.=C2=A0 I have records indicating that the=
 engine was TS 1233E.=C2=A0 My step-dad took possession of this car in 1992=
 as well as a complete but disassembled slightly newer TR2 TS 3381LO (long =
door).=C2=A0 The older car was obviously considered beyond restoration and =
most of the parts were sold by a previous owner.=C2=A0 Our purchase include=
d very little of the older car but a year later we answered a classified ad=
d that turned out to be the rest of our car!=C2=A0 Except that the drive tr=
ain had been "sold to some guy in California".=C2=A0 Last year I decided to=
 start a search for the missing drive train and actually found it.=C2=A0 It=
's been rebuilt and put into the beautifully restored very early TR2 TS 281=
L.=C2=A0 It's a well known "olive" yellow car with kind of an odd raspberry=
 colored interior, it's been in magazines so you may have seen it.
Needless to say I don't expect to ever be able to reunite the car with the =
drive train so I've been expecting to use a TR3 donor to complete my TS 103=
7LO... but your TS 1362E engine would be even better as it's only 129 units=
 later than my lost engine.
Please reach out to me directly if you are interested in selling it.=C2=A0 =
I replied all as I thought some of you folks might enjoy the story.=C2=A0 I=
've also traced the lineage of the newer TR2, I've found 4 previous owners =
back to 1962 including a guy who said he learned to drive in the car as a t=
eenager in the 60's.=C2=A0 I also found the guy that started restoring it i=
n the 80's and had to break the news to him that zero progress has been mad=
e on it since then... but I have ambitious plans!
Dusty Nicholson



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=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2018=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E09=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E54=E2=80=8E:=
=E2=80=8E25=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EAM=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8ECST, Joe Alexander via F=
ot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 Thanks all, for the kind responses. Always something to learn.

We could make this block available, if it had any importance to a hobbyist.=
 We have no need for it.

Thanks,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:=C2=A0 319.464.4711


> On Nov 30, 2018, at 10:03 PM, M&M Hado <mhado@att.net> wrote:
>=20
> Joe,
>=20
> You may have gotten your answer already but there were no cam bearings pr=
ior
> to TS8997E which is about at the start of TR3 production.=C2=A0 TR2's did=
 not
> have cam bearings and , therefore, no securing screws in the side of the
> block.=C2=A0 Your block TS1362E is clearly an early TR2 block.
>=20
> I have seen heads with and without the bridge machined in the casting so =
I
> think it is not significant one way or the other.=C2=A0 It seems to be mo=
re of a
> stiffener than anything.
>=20
> Mike
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander =
via
> Fot
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 1:27 PM
> To: fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Early Block
>=20
> Kas and All.
>=20
> Sean was stripping a block and noticed that there were no Cam Bearing
> Retainer Hardware. And the center web bridged the width of the block and =
was
> machined.
>>=20
>> TS1362E
>=20
> Clearly, running design changes for a reason. Any insights on this?
>=20
>=20
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3px;">I could be interested in your TR2 block and any other drive train bit=
s that go with it.</div><div class=3D"ydp951c93cbyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D=
"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:13px;"><br><=
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new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:13px;">I have the very sad hulk=
 of TS 1037LO (TR2 long door square tail lights) including the frame, very =
rough body panels, and a few random bits.&nbsp; I do not have the tub or dr=
ive train.&nbsp; I have records indicating that the engine was TS 1233E.&nb=
sp; My step-dad took possession of this car in 1992 as well as a complete b=
ut disassembled slightly newer TR2 TS 3381LO (long door).&nbsp; The older c=
ar was obviously considered beyond restoration and most of the parts were s=
old by a previous owner.&nbsp; Our purchase included very little of the old=
er car but a year later we answered a classified add that turned out to be =
the rest of our car!&nbsp; Except that the drive train had been "sold to so=
me guy in California".&nbsp; Last year I decided to start a search for the =
missing drive train and actually found it.&nbsp; It's been rebuilt and put =
into the beautifully restored very early TR2 TS 281L.&nbsp; It's a well kno=
wn "olive" yellow car with kind of an odd raspberry colored interior, it's =
been in magazines so you may have seen it.</div><div class=3D"ydp951c93cbya=
hoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, seri=
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Needless to say I don't expect to ever be able to reunite the car with the =
drive train so I've been expecting to use a TR3 donor to complete my TS 103=
7LO... but your TS 1362E engine would be even better as it's only 129 units=
 later than my lost engine.</div><div class=3D"ydp951c93cbyahoo-style-wrap"=
 style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:13p=
x;"><br></div><div class=3D"ydp951c93cbyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:13px;">Please reach ou=
t to me directly if you are interested in selling it.&nbsp; I replied all a=
s I thought some of you folks might enjoy the story.&nbsp; I've also traced=
 the lineage of the newer TR2, I've found 4 previous owners back to 1962 in=
cluding a guy who said he learned to drive in the car as a teenager in the =
60's.&nbsp; I also found the guy that started restoring it in the 80's and =
had to break the news to him that zero progress has been made on it since t=
hen... but I have ambitious plans!</div><div class=3D"ydp951c93cbyahoo-styl=
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nt-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:13px;">Dusty Ni=
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=8E =E2=80=8E1=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2018=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E09=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=
=8E54=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E25=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EAM=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8ECST, Joe =
Alexander via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks all, for the kind responses. A=
lways something to learn.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">We could mak=
e this block available, if it had any importance to a hobbyist. We have no =
need for it.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Thanks,<br clear=3D"none"=
><br clear=3D"none">Joe Alexander<br clear=3D"none">4505 Donald Dr<br clear=
=3D"none">Cedar Falls, IA 50613<br clear=3D"none">The-vintage-racer.com<br =
clear=3D"none">Gasketinnovations.com<br clear=3D"none">Cell:&nbsp; 319.464.=
4711<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydpc97a30f2yqt28002=
34554" id=3D"ydpc97a30f2yqtfd49034"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; On Nov 30, 2018=
, at 10:03 PM, M&amp;M Hado &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mhado@att.net"; target=3D"=
_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">mhado@att.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br cle=
ar=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Joe,<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br cl=
ear=3D"none">&gt; You may have gotten your answer already but there were no=
 cam bearings prior<br clear=3D"none">&gt; to TS8997E which is about at the=
 start of TR3 production.&nbsp; TR2's did not<br clear=3D"none">&gt; have c=
am bearings and , therefore, no securing screws in the side of the<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; block.&nbsp; Your block TS1362E is clearly an early TR2 bloc=
k.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; I have seen heads with an=
d without the bridge machined in the casting so I<br clear=3D"none">&gt; th=
ink it is not significant one way or the other.&nbsp; It seems to be more o=
f a<br clear=3D"none">&gt; stiffener than anything.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; =
<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Mike<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;=
 <br clear=3D"none">&gt; -----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">&gt; =
From: Fot [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On B=
ehalf Of Joe Alexander via<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Fot<br clear=3D"none">&gt=
; Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 1:27 PM<br clear=3D"none">&gt; To: <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D=
"rect">fot@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">&gt; Subject: [Fot] Early B=
lock<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Kas and All.<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Sean was stripping a block and notic=
ed that there were no Cam Bearing<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Retainer Hardware.=
 And the center web bridged the width of the block and was<br clear=3D"none=
">&gt; machined.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt;&gt; TS1=
362E<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Clearly, running design=
 changes for a reason. Any insights on this?<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br cle=
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