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To: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>, FOT <fot@autox.team.net>, Van Mulders Marcel <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Was: Oil Cooler or Oil filter first? Now how to ID flow out the adapter?
From: Kas Kastner via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 10:33:53 -0800
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
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Taking the oil temp form the oil pan lets you see the see the oil temp over
time and that tells you if something needs attention. When it goes to 300
degrees as it did on my TR-3 and not allowed a cooler by the regulations,
you take out the gauge and carry on.

*Never be beaten by equipment.*


On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:57 AM fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com> wrote:

> I don't have one of those adapters handy but I suspect that the fitting o=
n
> the right is oil out, the clean oil goes in the center.
> 90 psi is too high but shouldn't blow out the cooler.
> The pressure is relieved before it leaves the engine so the pressure on
> the gauge should reflect the actual pressure in the system; you should se=
e
> any pressure spikes
> Re oil temp, I do as most, pick it up out of the sump, that's the heat
> that the engine is making.
>
> Glen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bud Rolofson via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> To: Kas Kastner <kaskastner@gmail.com>; FOT <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2018 11:21 pm
> Subject: [Fot] Was: Oil Cooler or Oil filter first? Now how to ID flow ou=
t
> the adapter?
>
> List,
>
> Thanks to all who responded about this. The consensus was to go to the oi=
l
> filter first to catch as much debris as possible before it collects in th=
e
> oil cooler. Everyone said with an exploded engine (like I experienced)
> replacing the oil cooler is a requirement.
>
> So I did replace the oil cooler after blowing up the engine, but TWICE
> I=E2=80=99ve had them ($160 Earl=E2=80=99s oil coolers) blow out and leak=
 all over the
> engine bay when doing a test and tune day at the track. I=E2=80=99m on my=
 third oil
> cooler and trying to reduce the oil pressure that on my gage says 85-90 p=
si
> to see if that is what is causing the coolers to leak, although they are
> rated at 150 psi or more. I put an extra copper washer on the oil pressur=
e
> relief valve but I=E2=80=99m not sure what is really causing two oil cool=
ers to
> blow out. Bad luck? Coincidence? Bad parts?  I=E2=80=99m getting tired of
> oiling/cleaning my engine bay. I=E2=80=99ll find out if my washers help o=
n the next
> track day cause it has happened after 4-5 laps the last two times when I
> was breaking in new rings. Unfortunately the next track day could be a
> couple more months.
>
> So the next question I have is how to know which way the flow is out of
> the adapter on the engine. See pic below and please tell me if the oil is
> coming OUT of engine from the right or left fitting in the picture. There
> are absolutely no markings or clues to tell me.
>
> Also do most of you measure oil temp on the oil coming out or going into
> the engine?
>
> Thanks
> Bud
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Taking the oil temp form the oil pan lets you see the see =
the oil temp over time and that tells you if something needs attention. Whe=
n it goes to 300 degrees as it did on my TR-3 and not allowed a cooler by t=
he regulations, you take out the gauge and carry on.<br clear=3D"all"><div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signatur=
e"><p><strong><font color=3D"#000099">Never be beaten by equipment.</font><=
/strong></p></div></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:57 AM fubog1 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fubog1=
@aol.com">fubog1@aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex"><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"=
>
<div> <font size=3D"2">I don&#39;t have one of those adapters handy but I s=
uspect that the fitting on the right is oil out, the clean oil goes in the =
center.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">90 psi is too high but shouldn&#39;t blow out the coo=
ler.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">The pressure is relieved before it leaves the engine =
so the pressure on the gauge should reflect the actual pressure in the syst=
em; you should see any pressure spikes<br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Re oil temp, I do as most, pick it up out of the sump=
, that&#39;s the heat that the engine is making.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Glen</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: Bud Rolofson via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
To: Kas Kastner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blan=
k">kaskastner@gmail.com</a>&gt;; FOT &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.n=
et" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2018 11:21 pm<br>
Subject: [Fot] Was: Oil Cooler or Oil filter first? Now how to ID flow out      
=
the adapter?<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"m_2419412158905406664yiv0388136316">
<div>List,
<div class=3D"m_2419412158905406664yiv0388136316"><br class=3D"m_2419412158=
905406664yiv0388136316">
<div class=3D"m_2419412158905406664yiv0388136316">Thanks to all who respond=
ed about this. The consensus was to go to the oil filter first to catch as =
much debris as possible before it collects in the oil cooler. Everyone said=
 with an exploded engine (like I experienced) replacing the oil cooler is a=
 requirement.</div>

<div class=3D"m_2419412158905406664yiv0388136316"><br class=3D"m_2419412158=
905406664yiv0388136316"></div>

<div class=3D"m_2419412158905406664yiv0388136316">So I did replace the oil =
cooler after blowing up the engine, but TWICE I=E2=80=99ve had them ($160 E=
arl=E2=80=99s oil coolers) blow out and leak all over the engine bay when d=
oing a test and tune day at the track. I=E2=80=99m on my third oil cooler a=
nd trying to reduce the oil pressure that on my gage says 85-90 psi to see =
if that is what is causing the coolers to leak, although they are rated at =
150 psi or more. I put an extra copper washer on the oil pressure relief va=
lve but I=E2=80=99m not sure what is really causing two oil coolers to blow=
 out. Bad luck? Coincidence? Bad parts?=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m getting tired of =
oiling/cleaning my engine bay. I=E2=80=99ll find out if my washers help on =
the next track day cause it has happened after 4-5 laps the last two times =
when I was breaking in new rings. Unfortunately the next track day could be=
 a couple more months.</div>

<div class=3D"m_2419412158905406664yiv0388136316"><br class=3D"m_2419412158=
905406664yiv0388136316"></div>

<div class=3D"m_2419412158905406664yiv0388136316">So the next question I ha=
ve is how to know which way the flow is out of the adapter on the engine. S=
ee pic below and please tell me if the oil is coming OUT of engine from the=
 right or left fitting in the picture. There are absolutely no markings or =
clues to tell me.</div>

<div class=3D"m_2419412158905406664yiv0388136316"><br class=3D"m_2419412158=
905406664yiv0388136316"></div>

<div class=3D"m_2419412158905406664yiv0388136316">Also do most of you measu=
re oil temp on the oil coming out or going into the engine?</div>

<div class=3D"m_2419412158905406664yiv0388136316"><br class=3D"m_2419412158=
905406664yiv0388136316"></div>

<div class=3D"m_2419412158905406664yiv0388136316">Thanks</div>

<div class=3D"m_2419412158905406664yiv0388136316">Bud</div>

<div class=3D"m_2419412158905406664yiv0388136316"><br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
</div>
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