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Van: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>=20
Aan: "Phil Gott" <vfracing@aol.com>=20
Verzonden: Maandag 16 december 2019 21:37:40=20
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Racetorations TR2 - 4A 87mm - 89mm Thick Wall Piston L=
iner - Racetorations from Racetorations UK=20
That's why the copper gaskets are a bit thicker than the steel ones.=20
The liners of Darryl are sitting a little bit lower (some 0.006 : probably =
not relevant?) and the block can be milled : that is surely an advantage to=
get a flat top face and the right protrusion of the liners everywhere. Few=
blocks are truly flat and in most cases the protrusion is not even everywh=
ere. So I do agree that there is a lot to say for the longer liners that Da=
ryll is selling, not only the 72 =C2=A3 a set!=20
Marcel=20
Van: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Aan: "Tony and Annie Garmey" <horizonracing@msn.com>=20
Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>, "fubog1" <fubog1@aol.com>=20
Verzonden: Maandag 16 december 2019 19:33:44=20
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Racetorations TR2 - 4A 87mm - 89mm Thick Wall Piston L=
iner - Racetorations from Racetorations UK=20
Daryl advocates decking the block as well To get proper protrusion. Elimina=
ting the gasket reduces variation in protrusion due to variable gasket thic=
knesses, and also eliminates some of the possible loss of protrusion due to=
gasket compression ( more likely with copper than with steel).=20
Sent from my iPhone=20
On Dec 16, 2019, at 1:02 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <fot@autox.team.=
net> wrote:=20
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Regardless of who makes or supplies the liners , with the correct protrusio=
n, the liner will hourglass .=20
Only way to correct this is the use of a torque plate and then proceed with=
boring and honing to final finish size .=20
Yes , a lot of work but you=E2=80=99ll get better ring seal and hopefully n=
ot stick a piston :-)=20
Merry Christmas to all=20
T=20
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On Dec 16, 2019, at 9:55 AM, fubog1 via Fot < [ mailto:fot@autox.team.net |=
fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:=20
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The liners distort a lot when torqued down, even 87mm.=20
I have no experience with the liners in question, so can't offer anything o=
n them.=20
Glen=20
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Why thicker walls on a 87mm liner, they are strong enough with the normal t=
hickness?=20
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Subject: Re: [Fot] Racetorations TR2 - 4A 87mm - 89mm Thick Wall Piston Lin=
er - Racetorations from Racetorations UK=20
The figure of 8 gaskets are thicker than 0.010" : 0.016 or 0.018".=20
Why thicker walls on a 87mm liner, they are strong enough with the normal t=
hickness?=20
Boring up to 89mm : I would rather buy 89mm liners, without the need of mac=
hining.=20
I bought several parts from Racetorations (Darryl Uprichard) and was always=
satisfied.=20
Marcel.=20
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Onderwerp: [Fot] Racetorations TR2 - 4A 87mm - 89mm Thick Wall Piston Liner=
- Racetorations from Racetorations UK=20
I came across this advertisement today and was curious if anyone has used t=
hese liners and done so w/o fo8 gaskets as described in the listing.=20
Thanks=20
Greg.=20
[ http://www.racetorations.co.uk/triumph-c56/tr3-c4/tr3-engine-c13/tr3-engi=
ne-bottom-end-c160/racetorations-tr2-4a-87mm-89mm-thick-wall-piston-liner-p=
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f; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div><br></div><hr id=3D=
"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van=
: </b>"van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be><br><b>Aan:=
</b>"Phil Gott" <vfracing@aol.com><br><b>Verzonden: </b>Maandag 16 d=
ecember 2019 21:37:40<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Racetorations TR2 - 4A=
87mm - 89mm Thick Wall Piston Liner - Racetorations from Racetorations UK<=
br></div><br><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div style=3D"font-family=
:'verdana' , 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#00000=
0"><div>That's why the copper gaskets are a bit thicker than the steel ones=
.</div><div>The liners of Darryl are sitting a little bit lower (some 0.006=
: probably not relevant?) and the block can be milled : that is surely an =
advantage to get a flat top face and the right protrusion of the line=
rs everywhere. Few blocks are truly flat and in most cases the protrusion i=
s not even everywhere. So I do agree that there is a lot to say for the lon=
ger liners that Daryll is selling, not only the 72 =C2=A3 a set!<br></div><=
div>Marcel</div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div><b>Van: </b>"fot" <fot@autox.team.=
net><br><b>Aan: </b>"Tony and Annie Garmey" <horizonracing@msn.com>=
;<br><b>Cc: </b>"fot" <fot@autox.team.net>, "fubog1" <fubog1@aol.c=
om><br><b>Verzonden: </b>Maandag 16 december 2019 19:33:44<br><b>Onderwe=
rp: </b>Re: [Fot] Racetorations TR2 - 4A 87mm - 89mm Thick Wall Piston Line=
r - Racetorations from Racetorations UK<br></div><br><div>Daryl advocates d=
ecking the block as well To get proper protrusion. Eliminating the gasket r=
educes variation in protrusion due to variable gasket thicknesses, and also=
eliminates some of the possible loss of protrusion due to gasket compressi=
on ( more likely with copper than with steel).<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent=
from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote>On Dec 16, 2019, at 1=
:02 PM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>=
<br></blockquote></div><blockquote><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
</div></blockquote>
Regardless of who makes or supplies the liners , with the correct protrusio=
n, the liner will hourglass .
<div>Only way to correct this is the use of a torque plate and then proceed=
with boring and honing to final finish size . </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Yes , a lot of work but you=E2=80=99ll get better ring seal and hopefu=
lly not stick a piston :-)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Merry Christmas to all </div>
<div>T<br>
<br>
<div>Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>
On Dec 16, 2019, at 9:55 AM, fubog1 via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox=
.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt 'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif">
<div><span style=3D"font-size:small">The liners distort a lot when torqued =
down, even 87mm.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:small">I have no experience with the liners i=
n question, so can't offer anything on them.<br>
</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:small">Glen<br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica';font-size:10pt;color:black"=
>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid blue;padding-left:3px">Why thick=
er walls on a 87mm liner, they are strong enough with the normal thic=
kness?</blockquote>
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</div>
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>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.ne=
t" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=
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To: Greg Blake <<a href=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com"; rel=3D"nofollo=
w noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">gblak=
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Sent: Mon, Dec 16, 2019 10:49 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Racetorations TR2 - 4A 87mm - 89mm Thick Wall Piston Lin=
er - Racetorations from Racetorations UK<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The figure of 8 gaskets are thicker than 0.010" : 0.016 or=
0.018".<br clear=3D"none">
Why thicker walls on a 87mm liner, they are strong enough with the no=
rmal thickness?<br clear=3D"none">
Boring up to 89mm : I would rather buy 89mm liners, without the need of mac=
hining.<br clear=3D"none">
I bought several parts from Racetorations (Darryl Uprichard) and was always=
satisfied.<br clear=3D"none">
Marcel.<br clear=3D"none">
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Onderwerp: [Fot] Racetorations TR2 - 4A 87mm - 89mm Thick Wall Piston Liner=
- Racetorations from Racetorations UK<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
I came across this advertisement today and was curious if anyone has used t=
hese liners and done so w/o fo8 gaskets as described in the listing.
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Thanks <br clear=3D"none">
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