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I agree with Marty. But looking back at the Triumph Marque race at the Glen l=
ast year, if SVRA felt the car was beyond their rule set, they let the car r=
un in the =E2=80=9CNC=E2=80=9D or non/ conforming category. In other words, t=
hey=E2=80=99ll let you play one way or the other. As an NC car, you just di=
d not get any trophies or podium position. Safety violations may put you ou=
t, but frankly, having looked at the rules, they are pretty much common sens=
e and very similar to SCCA.
Phil
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 12, 2020, at 5:17 PM, marty via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> I would think it is up to each individual competitor no matter where they a=
re from to review the race rules where they intend to race at (SVRA) and if t=
here is a discrepancy to contact the chief of tech (Rick) personally to get s=
pecific decisions. Not really something to work out publicly. Way too many w=
hat if's.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Marty
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> From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of John Styduhar via Fot <=
fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 4:40 PM
> To: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>
> Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Tech forms for the Kastner Cup
> =20
> I just don't want the guys from oversees having trouble going through the S=
VRA tech inspection. It was already brought to my attention that some cars d=
o not run dual circuit brakes. Also that they may not have an approved fuel=
cell. I'm assuming they follow FIA and not SFI certification. Do you thin=
k SVRA could adopt the policy of VARAC (at their GP event in Mosport) to ins=
pect the entrants based on their own club rules? =20
>=20
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 3:39 PM fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com> wrote:
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> SVRA rules 32 years ago.
> Yep back when SVRA stood for Southeast Vintage Racers Association.
> Geez I'm feeling old...
> Glen
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>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Jackson via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> To: John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com>; marty <trmarty@hotmail.com>
> Cc: FOT <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jan 12, 2020 3:17 pm
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Tech forms for the Kastner Cup
>=20
> John,
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> Dont keep us in suspense, what are your examples. I might be in violation=
of many since my car was preped to SVRA rules 32 years ago.
>=20
> Mike
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> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: John Styduhar via Fot=20
> Sent: Jan 12, 2020 3:01 PM=20
> To: marty=20
> Cc: FOT=20
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Tech forms for the Kastner Cup=20
>=20
> I'd like to understand from Rick Parent what SVRA rules are going to be wa=
ived for the Mid-Ohio race and particularly the Kastner Cup race. If you ne=
ed examples I can provide them. Thanks
>=20
>=20
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 7:25 PM marty via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Listen to Rick, not me on this.
>=20
> Marty
>=20
> From: Rick Parent <rick.parent@att.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:33 PM
> To: marty <trmarty@hotmail.com>; Mike Harmuth <ofracer@gmail.com>
> Cc: FOT <fot@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Tech forms for the Kastner Cup
> =20
> If you have already turned in the forms no need to do it again.
>=20
> Please do not mail them, we will never see them that address is gone, plea=
se email them to rick@svra.com
>=20
> Here are the new forms.
>=20
> We need to know what tires you will be using so we can class cars accordin=
gly in advance.
>=20
> On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 04:52:10 PM EST, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> Probably a question for Rick. I did this last year for the Glen event, no c=
hanges, need to put in another one?
>=20
> mike h
>=20
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 4:24 PM marty via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Due to the enormity ( I had to look that one up to make sure it was a word=
) of this years event lets please try and get some of this stuff out of the w=
ay in advance so we aren't standing around in tech thinking to our selves da=
rn I wish I would have done that earlier. If you go to the link below there i=
s a race car certification form and an engine certification form. I'm not su=
re all the stuff applies but fill it in the best that you can and get it mai=
led in to the address at the bottom of the one form. That way SVRA can see w=
hat's coming and it will help line up classes in advance.=20
>=20
> Thanks, I'm hoping to get as much up front work out of the way now so come=
June we are just coasting. We are up to 39 cars registered, 65 expressed in=
terest in racing.
>=20
> Marty
>=20
>=20
> https://svra.com/forms/
> Forms | SVRA
> SVRA Forms: Quick Reference. Below is a quick reference to all the forms a=
vailable for SVRA: Crew Card Application Spectator Season Pass Application (=
General Membership) License Renewal
> svra.com
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I agree with Marty. But looking back at the=
Triumph Marque race at the Glen last year, if SVRA felt the car was beyond t=
heir rule set, they let the car run in the =E2=80=9CNC=E2=80=9D or non/ conf=
orming category. In other words, they=E2=80=99ll let you play one way or the=
other. As an NC car, you just did not get any trophies or podium posi=
tion. Safety violations may put you out, but frankly, having looked at=
the rules, they are pretty much common sense and very similar to SCCA.<div>=
Phil<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 12, 2020, at 5:17 PM, marty via Fot <fot@=
autox.team.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
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; font-size: 12pt;">
<span>I would think it is up to each individual competitor no matter where t=
hey are from to review the race rules where they intend to race at (SVRA) an=
d if there is a discrepancy to contact the chief of tech (Rick) personally t=
o get specific decisions. Not
really something to work out publicly. Way too many what if's.</span>=
</div>
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; font-size: 12pt;">
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; font-size: 12pt;">
<span>Marty</span></div>
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nt-size:12pt">
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i, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Fot <fot-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net> on behalf of John Styduhar via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>=
;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 12, 2020 4:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Triumph 'Friends of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Fw: Tech forms for the Kastner Cup</font>
<div> </div>
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<div>
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<div class=3D"x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I just don't want t=
he guys from oversees having trouble going through the SVRA tech inspection.=
It was already brought to my attention that some cars do not run dual=
circuit brakes. Also that they may not
have an approved fuel cell. I'm assuming they follow FIA and not SFI c=
ertification. Do you think SVRA could adopt the policy of VARAC (at th=
eir GP event in Mosport) to inspect the entrants based on their own club rul=
es? </div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"x_gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 3:39 PM fubo=
g1 <<a href=3D"mailto:fubog1@aol.com";>fubog1@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
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<blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid blue; padding-left:3px">
<div>SVRA rules 32 years ago.</div>
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</blockquote>
</div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Yep back when SVRA stood for Southeast Vintage Racers A=
ssociation.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Geez I'm feeling old...</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Glen</font><br>
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-Original Message-----<br>
From: Mike Jackson via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br>
To: John Styduhar <<a href=3D"mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blan=
k">johnstydo@gmail.com</a>>; marty <<a href=3D"mailto:trmarty@hotmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">trmarty@hotmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: FOT <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@auto=
x.team.net</a>><br>
Sent: Sun, Jan 12, 2020 3:17 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Tech forms for the Kastner Cup<br>
<br>
<div id=3D"x_gmail-m_-5880877865370565204yiv3062382358">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-size:16px; color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:arial,sans-serif=
">John,
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<div>Dont keep us in suspense, what are your examples. I might be in v=
iolation of many since my car was preped to SVRA rules 32 years ago.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Mike<br>
<br>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px; margin-left:0px; border-left:2px soli=
d rgb(0,0,255); font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none;=
font-size:10pt; font-family:arial,sans-serif; color:black">
-----Original Message----- <br>
From: John Styduhar via Fot <br>
Sent: Jan 12, 2020 3:01 PM <br>
To: marty <br>
Cc: FOT <br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Tech forms for the Kastner Cup <br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:small">I'd like to understand from Rick Parent what S=
VRA rules are going to be waived for the Mid-Ohio race and particularly the K=
astner Cup race. If you need examples I can provide them. Thanks=
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small"><br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 7:25 PM marty via Fot <<a href=3D=
"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer">fo=
t@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
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nt-size:12pt">
<span>Listen to Rick, not me on this.</span></div>
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nt-size:12pt">
<span><br>
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nt-size:12pt">
<span>Marty</span></div>
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nt-size:12pt">
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<font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt=
"><b>From:</b> Rick Parent <<a href=3D"mailto:rick.parent@att.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer">rick.parent@att.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> marty <<a href=3D"mailto:trmarty@hotmail.com"; target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer">trmarty@hotmail.com</a>>; Mike Harmuth <=
<a href=3D"mailto:ofracer@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noref=
errer">ofracer@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> FOT <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" r=
el=3D"noopener noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Tech forms for the Kastner Cup</font>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div>
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<div></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">If you have already turned in the forms no need to do it ag=
ain.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Please do not mail them, we will never see them that addres=
s is gone, please email them to
<a href=3D"mailto:rick@svra.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferre=
r">rick@svra.com</a></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Here are the new forms.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">We need to know what tires you will be using so we can clas=
s cars accordingly in advance.</div>
<div><br>
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00458yahoo_quoted_9530226292">
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rgb(38,40,42)">
<div>On Thursday, January 9, 2020, 04:52:10 PM EST, Mike Harmuth via Fot <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener nor=
eferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
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<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Probably a question for Rick. I did this last year for the G=
len event, no changes, need to put in another one?
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<div>mike h</div>
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00458yiv1686578501yqt21530">
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 4:24 PM marty via Fot <<a href=3D=
"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" sh=
ape=3D"rect">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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nt-size:12pt">
Due to the enormity ( I had to look that one up to make sure it was a word) o=
f this years event lets please try and get some of this stuff out of the way=
in advance so we aren't standing around in tech thinking to our selves darn=
I wish I would have done that
earlier. If you go to the link below there is a race car certification form=
and an engine certification form. I'm not sure all the stuff applies but fi=
ll it in the best that you can and get it mailed in to the address at the bo=
ttom of the one form. That way
SVRA can see what's coming and it will help line up classes in advance.&nbs=
p;</div>
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nt-size:12pt">
Thanks, I'm hoping to get as much up front work out of the way now so come J=
une we are just coasting. We are up to 39 cars registered, 65 expressed inte=
rest in racing.</div>
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Marty</div>
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