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Re: [Fot] !957 Sebring Results

To: Robert Johns <outlook_91706A5C9905ADA5@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] !957 Sebring Results
From: Joe Alexander via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 09:42:06 -0500
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Thanks Bob,

I am glad I brought it up. It makes a great story to retell....especially fr=
om you.

A shining moment in Triumph History.

The Kastner Cup is still on......until it=E2=80=99s not.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Apr 13, 2020, at 9:35 AM, Robert Johns via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wro=
te:
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> Here we go again.  Morty knows the facts about the published results being=
  incorrect.  Morty is right about the car that is about to go under the bri=
dge at the race start  is being driven by Bob Oaker.  Mike Rothschild starte=
d the race with # 34, the white TR3 with the white top.  I took over in that=
 car about 1:00 and finished my second shift of the race in 19th place.  Bot=
h of the other two TR3s developed clutch problems (sheared throw out bearing=
 shaft pin).  The spare third car # 70 was withdrawn. #33 continued to be dr=
iven primarily by Bob Oaker, as Pennybacker was not able to drive without th=
e clutch.  # 33 finished in 21 place.  The record keeping was very loose in t=
hose days.
> AAA was running things and no one from the officials committee bothered to=
 make a final check as what drivers were to drive what cars. There was never=
 any question in the Triumph Pit as to what the driver arrangement was to be=
. Mike and I practiced  in only #34.  In 2007 I went to the race and took wi=
th me all kinds of data.  I went to the officials office and discussed the i=
ncorrect record issue with them.  We had agreement  and I was assured  that t=
he next time the record book was reprinted,  corrections would be made.  I h=
ave the trophy that was presented to the team for the first in class win.   T=
his happened within a year of when Mike Cook died.  He discovered the trophi=
es in a closet of the Jaguar Headquarters in New Jersey. If we have the Kast=
ner Cup, I will bring it for all to enjoy.    The photo that is on facebook =
 as the heading of my facebook page is of the Triumph team.  I will try to a=
dd that photo and the photo of the winning car with Mike and myself  and the=
 class winning trophy sitting on the hood (bonnet).   There was none of the A=
merican magazines that got the results correct.  There is an  English car ma=
gazine that did get it right.   If you see me, ask me how I could have, shou=
ld have,  gotten 18th place instead of 19th.   It was the way of gentleman r=
acing in those days. Once again, I hope that this will put this matter  to b=
ed.   Thank you everybody for having an interest. =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Thanks Bob,<div><br></div><div>I am glad I b=
rought it up. It makes a great story to retell....especially from you.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>A shining moment in Triumph History.</div><div><br></div=
><div>The Kastner Cup is still on......until it=E2=80=99s not.<br><br><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Joe Alexander<div>4505 Donald Dr</div><div>Cedar Falls, IA 50613<=
/div><div>The-vintage-racer.com</div><div>Gasketinnovations.com</div><div>Ce=
ll: &nbsp;319.464.4711</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><block=
quote type=3D"cite">On Apr 13, 2020, at 9:35 AM, Robert Johns via Fot &lt;fo=
t@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"ci=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here we go again.&nbsp; Morty knows the facts about t=
he published results being&nbsp; incorrect.&nbsp; Morty is right about the c=
ar that is about to go under the bridge at the race start&nbsp; is being dri=
ven by Bob Oaker.&nbsp; Mike Rothschild started the race
 with # 34, the white TR3 with the white top.&nbsp; I took over in that car a=
bout 1:00 and finished my second shift of the race in 19<sup>th</sup> place.=
&nbsp; Both of the other two TR3s developed clutch problems (sheared throw o=
ut bearing shaft pin).&nbsp; The spare third
 car # 70 was withdrawn. #33 continued to be driven primarily by Bob Oaker, a=
s Pennybacker was not able to drive without the clutch.&nbsp; # 33 finished i=
n 21 place.&nbsp; The record keeping was very loose in those days.
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">AAA was running things and no one from the officials c=
ommittee bothered to make a final check as what drivers were to drive what c=
ars. There was never any question in the Triumph Pit as to what the driver a=
rrangement was to be. Mike and
 I practiced&nbsp; in only #34.&nbsp; In 2007 I went to the race and took wi=
th me all kinds of data.&nbsp; I went to the officials office and discussed t=
he incorrect record issue with them.&nbsp; We had agreement &nbsp;and I was a=
ssured &nbsp;that the next time the record book was reprinted,
 &nbsp;corrections would be made.&nbsp; I have the trophy that was presented=
 to the team for the first in class win.&nbsp;&nbsp; This happened within a y=
ear of when Mike Cook died.&nbsp; He discovered the trophies in a closet of t=
he Jaguar Headquarters in New Jersey. If we have the
 Kastner Cup, I will bring it for all to enjoy. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The photo t=
hat is on facebook&nbsp; as the heading of my facebook page is of the Triump=
h team.&nbsp; I will try to add that photo and the photo of the winning car w=
ith Mike and myself &nbsp;and the class winning trophy sitting
 on the hood (bonnet). &nbsp;&nbsp;There was none of the American magazines t=
hat got the results correct.&nbsp; There is an &nbsp;English car magazine th=
at did get it right. &nbsp;&nbsp;If you see me, ask me how I could have, sho=
uld have, &nbsp;gotten 18<sup>th</sup> place instead of 19<sup>th</sup>.
 &nbsp;&nbsp;It was the way of gentleman racing in those days. Once again, I=
 hope that this will put this matter &nbsp;to bed.&nbsp;&nbsp; Thank you eve=
rybody for having an interest. &nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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