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Isn't the leak from the trans front oil seal a short term solution for
lubing the cross shaft? I have yet to keep one of these totally dry.
Bob Kramer
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:25 AM DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
wrote:
> I recently disassembled the engine from my TR3 and the rear main area was
> dry. This was my first TR engine build. I used the orange RTV and
> carefully watched it just squeeze through gaps and cracks around the
> bearing cap as I installed the rope covered in RTV. That is the only pla=
ce
> I used the orange RTV on the engine or anywhere else. I made a rope
> install tool just like Kas suggests in his book. What I did find was tha=
t
> the front engine plate was leaking between the plate and engine at the
> bottom. Oil from this leak makes it's way all over the oil pan and drips
> off the bolts and back from there. Also, my trans front seal was leaking
> and that slings fluid around inside the bell housing then drips out the
> hole at the bottom. The slinging oil also finds it's way out around the
> clutch fork shaft exiting the bell housing. These two leaks made it
> difficult to tell if the rear main was leaking or not. I also found tran=
s
> fluid coming from one of the bolts holding the tail housing on. These
> obviously need to be sealed up better than they were. At least the rear
> main wasn't leaking. I'll be more confident installing the rope seal thi=
s
> time around.
> Dave H.
> > On May 15, 2020 at 6:52 AM Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote=
:
> >
> >
> > Thanks to all who replied.
> >
> > I asked because we are doing a bottom end rebuild, and I=E2=80=99m very=
worried
> that if any kind of goo gets down into the ring pack, it will stick the
> rings.
> > Thanks for the tips. The =E2=80=9Cstring=E2=80=9D of tips should be inc=
luded in this
> email. Some very clever!
> > Hope to see you in Ohio,
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On May 15, 2020, at 9:20 AM, Michael Moore <mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > =EF=BB=BFDid you get any responses to your question, I would also lik=
e to know
> if the is a less messy way to do it.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Michael T. Moore, CPA
> > > 3255 West 26th Street
> > > Erie, PA 16506
> > >
> > > Phone: 814-616-8652 ext 100
> > > Fax: 888-865-5279
> > > Email: mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 8:19 PM
> > > To: Friends Of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> > > Subject: [Fot] Rear main rope seal alternatives?
> > >
> > > Seems as if every time I use Permatex Aviation Cement to soak my rope
> seals the mess gets worse and worse.
> > > Is there a good alternative to Aviation Cement or to the rope seals
> entirely? I have tried RTV, but it is very hard to get it in there with n=
o
> air gaps. Building another engine this week and am wondering about a bett=
er
> way to do it.
> > > Phil Gott
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Isn't the=C2=A0leak from the trans front oil seal a sh=
ort term solution for lubing the cross shaft? I have yet to keep one of the=
se totally dry.<div><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_=
signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</=
div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:25 AM DAVE HOGYE via F=
ot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I recently d=
isassembled the engine from my TR3 and the rear main area was dry.=C2=A0 Th=
is was my first TR engine build.=C2=A0 I used the orange RTV and carefully =
watched it just squeeze through gaps and cracks around the bearing cap as I=
installed the rope covered in RTV.=C2=A0 That is the only place I used the=
orange RTV on the engine or anywhere else.=C2=A0 I made a rope install too=
l just like Kas suggests in his book.=C2=A0 What I did find was that the fr=
ont engine plate was leaking between the plate and engine at the bottom.=C2=
=A0 Oil from this leak makes it's way all over the oil pan and drips of=
f the bolts and back from there.=C2=A0 Also, my trans front seal was leakin=
g and that slings fluid around inside the bell housing then drips out the h=
ole at the bottom.=C2=A0 The slinging oil also finds it's way out aroun=
d the clutch fork shaft exiting the bell housing.=C2=A0 These two leaks mad=
e it difficult to tell if the rear main was leaking or not.=C2=A0 I also fo=
und trans fluid coming from one of the bolts holding the tail housing on.=
=C2=A0 These obviously need to be sealed up better than they were.=C2=A0 At=
least the rear main wasn't leaking.=C2=A0 I'll be more confident i=
nstalling the rope seal this time around.=C2=A0 <br>
Dave H.<br>
> On May 15, 2020 at 6:52 AM Phil Gott via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Thanks to all who replied.<br>
> <br>
> I asked because we are doing a bottom end rebuild, and I=E2=80=99m ver=
y worried that if any kind of goo gets down into the ring pack, it will sti=
ck the rings. <br>
> Thanks for the tips. The =E2=80=9Cstring=E2=80=9D of tips should be in=
cluded in this email. Some very clever!<br>
> Hope to see you in Ohio,<br>
> <br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
> <br>
> > On May 15, 2020, at 9:20 AM, Michael Moore <<a href=3D"mailto:=
mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com" target=3D"_blank">mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com</a>> wrot=
e:<br>
> > <br>
> > =EF=BB=BFDid you get any responses to your question, I would also=
like to know if the is a less messy way to do it.<br>
> > <br>
> > Thanks<br>
> > Mike<br>
> > <br>
> > Michael T. Moore, CPA<br>
> > 3255 West 26th Street<br>
> > Erie, PA 16506<br>
> > <br>
> > Phone:=C2=A0 814-616-8652=C2=A0 ext 100<br>
> > Fax:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 888-865-5279<br>
> > Email:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com</a><br>
> > <br>
> > This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally pr=
ivileged information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the rea=
der of this message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby not=
ified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this me=
ssage is strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender =
immediately by return email and destroy this copy of this message.<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Phil Gott via =
Fot<br>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 8:19 PM<br>
> > To: Friends Of Triumph <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br>
> > Subject: [Fot] Rear main rope seal alternatives?<br>
> > <br>
> > Seems as if every time I use Permatex Aviation Cement to soak my =
rope seals the mess gets worse and worse. <br>
> > Is there a good alternative to Aviation Cement or to the rope sea=
ls entirely? I have tried RTV, but it is very hard to get it in there with =
no air gaps. Building another engine this week and am wondering about a bet=
ter way to do it.<br>
> > Phil Gott<br>
> > <br>
> > Sent from my iPhone<br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox=
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