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To: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvv@roadrunner.com>, Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Under Hood Vents
From: dustin nicholson via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 20:03:20 +0000 (UTC)
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 I'll bet a TR6 hardtop will fit a TR4, not sure it would look good though =
being angular lines instead of rounded.=C2=A0 Although aftermarket TR6 tops=
 tend to be a little more rounded so might look okay on a TR4.=C2=A0 I've s=
een TR4 surrey tops on TR6's so I imagine the fit would work the other way =
too.
Or get a GTR4 Dove with the fixed fastback roof, but maybe those are too ra=
re to make into a racecar.=C2=A0 A guy in our club has had two of them so m=
aybe they aren't that rare?
Dusty
    On Friday, August 28, 2020, 01:44:31 PM CDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@=
autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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  Hi Jerry.=C2=A0 I was using the name "Targa Top" for what I have seen on =
cars like yours.=C2=A0 I guess that term is normally used for Porshes.=C2=
=A0 The "Hard Top" I was referring to is like the steel top I have on my TR=
-3 (see picture), where the entire top lifts off, as opposed to the "Targa =
Top", where the rear window normally stays in place.=C2=A0 I've seen a numb=
er of what I am calling Targa Tops, including both of the race cars you men=
tioned.=C2=A0 But I have never seen a totally steel, one piece Hard Top for=
 a TR-4 or 4A.
Thanks for your comments.
Jack

    On Thursday, August 27, 2020, 7:15:09 PM EDT, Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvv@=
roadrunner.com> wrote: =20
=20
 Jack This is my TR4A; photos by Shawn Frank at Blackhawk Farms for the 201=
7 Kastner Cup.The Hardtop was a factory option for the 4, 4A and 250 and ye=
s the center portion was removable. It could be replaced with a soft top se=
ction which is the =E2=80=9CSurrey Top=E2=80=9D often referred to by enthus=
iasts.Jack Drews had a blue TR4 with the Hardtop before it was wrecked and =
Bob Deanes runs a TR4 with the Hardtop but we don=E2=80=99t see him very of=
ten.I=E2=80=99ve owned my 4A for 51 years and looked for this Hardtop for 4=
0 of those years. Finally bought a car with the top, put it on my car and t=
hen sold the car. I like the appearance. The center section was initially a=
luminum and later was steel. The rear window section is a cast aluminum pie=
ce. The glass is now unobtanium. JVV=C2=A0From: Jack Wheeler via Fot Sent: =
Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:23 PMTo: FOT ; J Wagner Subject: Re: [Fot] Unde=
r Hood Vents=C2=A0This car appears to be a Targa Top car.=C2=A0 I had never=
 noticed it before, but this makes sense for racing.=C2=A0 I don't know if =
they ever made a true "hardtop" for the TR-4, like the Steel TR-3 hardtop.=
=C2=A0 I've never seen one.=C2=A0 If not, then the Targa Top would be a goo=
d alternative to improve aerodynamics (Verses the open car), assuming you k=
ept the solid roof panel in place.=C2=A0 I have seen a few aftermarket plas=
tic hardtops, in fact my race car came with one, but never a true hardtop f=
rom the factory.=C2=A0 Just an observation.=C2=A0 Any comments?=C2=A0Jack
=C2=A0On Thursday, August 27, 2020, 4:48:07 PM EDT, J Wagner via Fot <fot@a=
utox.team.net> wrote: =C2=A0=C2=A0I saw these for sale on craigslist just n=
ow and I thought to share them with the FOT.=C2=A0 It is my understanding t=
he grills used on the 60=E2=80=99s Triumph Works TR4s=E2=80=99 engine bay v=
ents were repurposed grills from the Triumph Herald.=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0Here=E2=80=99s a pair for sale.=C2=A0 (Old TR4 pics from the web just=
 for reference)
=C2=A0I have no connection with the seller.
=C2=A0=E2=80=94Justin
=C2=A0


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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I'll bet a TR6 hardtop will =
fit a TR4, not sure it would look good though being angular lines instead o=
f rounded.&nbsp; Although aftermarket TR6 tops tend to be a little more rou=
nded so might look okay on a TR4.&nbsp; I've seen TR4 surrey tops on TR6's =
so I imagine the fit would work the other way too.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Or get=
 a GTR4 Dove with the fixed fastback roof, but maybe those are too rare to =
make into a racecar.&nbsp; A guy in our club has had two of them so maybe t=
hey aren't that rare?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Dusty</div><div><br></div>
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                    On Friday, August 28, 2020, 01:44:31 PM CDT, Jack Wheel=
er via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Jerry.&nbsp; I was using the name "Targa Top" f=
or what I have seen on cars like yours.&nbsp; I guess that term is normally=
 used for Porshes.&nbsp; The "Hard Top" I was referring to is like the stee=
l top I have on my TR-3 (see picture), where the entire top lifts off, as o=
pposed to the "Targa Top", where the rear window normally stays in place.&n=
bsp; I've seen a number of what I am calling Targa Tops, including both of =
the race cars you mentioned.&nbsp; But I have never seen a totally steel, o=
ne piece Hard Top for a TR-4 or 4A.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Thanks for your comments.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Jack<br></div><div><br></div>
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                    On Thursday, August 27, 2020, 7:15:09 PM EDT, Jerry Van=
 Vlack &lt;jerryvv@roadrunner.com&gt; wrote:
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<div>Jack This is my TR4A; photos by Shawn Frank at Blackhawk Farms for the=
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Kastner Cup.</div>
<div>The Hardtop was a factory option for the 4, 4A and 250 and yes the cen=
ter=20
portion was removable. It could be replaced with a soft top section which i=
s the=20
=E2=80=9CSurrey Top=E2=80=9D often referred to by enthusiasts.</div>
<div>Jack Drews had a blue TR4 with the Hardtop before it was wrecked and B=
ob=20
Deanes runs a TR4 with the Hardtop but we don=E2=80=99t see him very often.=
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<div>I=E2=80=99ve owned my 4A for 51 years and looked for this Hardtop for =
40 of those=20
years. Finally bought a car with the top, put it on my car and then sold th=
e=20
car. I like the appearance. The center section was initially aluminum and l=
ater=20
was steel. The rear window section is a cast aluminum piece. The glass is n=
ow=20
unobtanium. </div>
<div>JVV</div>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:23 PM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Under Hood Vents</div></div></div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span>This car appears to be a Targa Top=20
car.&nbsp; </span>I had never noticed it before, but this makes sense for=
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racing.&nbsp; I don't know if they ever made a true "hardtop" for the TR-4,=
 like=20
the Steel TR-3 hardtop.&nbsp; I've never seen one.&nbsp; If not, then the T=
arga=20
Top would be a good alternative to improve aerodynamics (Verses the open ca=
r),=20
assuming you kept the solid roof panel in place.&nbsp; I have seen a few=20
aftermarket plastic hardtops, in fact my race car came with one, but never =
a=20
true hardtop from the factory.&nbsp; Just an observation.&nbsp; Any=20
comments?</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br clear=3D"none"></div>
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<div>On Thursday, August 27, 2020, 4:48:07 PM EDT, J Wagner via Fot=20
&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote: </div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I saw these for sale on craigslist just now and I thought =
to share=20
them with the FOT.&nbsp; It is my understanding the grills used on the 60=
=E2=80=99s=20
Triumph Works TR4s=E2=80=99 engine bay vents were repurposed grills from th=
e Triumph=20
Herald.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Here=E2=80=99s a pair for sale.&nbsp; (Old TR4 pics from t=
he web just for=20
reference)<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I have no connection with the seller.<br clear=3D"none"></=
div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=94Justin<br clear=3D"none"></div>
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