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Re: [Fot] Lever arm shocks vs. tube shock conversion

To: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Lever arm shocks vs. tube shock conversion
From: Joe Alexander via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 11:41:01 -0600
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Rebuilt shocks by World Wide Parts in WI. Long overdue on my long term TR3A.=
 No more skitter.

The two race cars Ambro & TR4 have tube shock conversions from RATCO. Works j=
ust fine.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:34 AM, fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> I've always felt that was a lot of $$ & effort for what gains???
> There's nothing wrong with the standard lever-action design, and Apple Hyd=
raulics will do a 10% stiffer if you want.
> It's hard to evaluate a shock by the push/pull method since they have a hi=
gh & low speed function, and you can't feel the high speed by working it by h=
and.
> A tube shock conversion does make sense on an all-out spec racecar because=
 they've developed them to a point where the ability to adjust the rate & pr=
oportioning is almost infinite.
> Most vintage racers/racecars don't fall into that category, and some group=
s still have vintage rules (I think )
> Besides the ability for limited adjustment on some, which is a big plus, I=
 don't see the benefits for most vintage applications, nor street cars.
> Now having said/typed that, this is just my personal opinion, many folks u=
se them, and I'm sure will chime in with their thoughts...=20
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> Glen Efinger
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Connitt via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> To: FOT <FOT@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2021 12:06 pm
> Subject: [Fot] Lever arm shocks vs. tube shock conversion
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> Hi all,
> I am new to the FOS list. I own a 1967 TR4A-IRS that I finished restoring b=
ack in 2013 (DavesTR4A. com). It=E2=80=99s running stock lever type rear sho=
cks that other than cleaning and painting and adding new links, I just reins=
talled in the the car during the restoration. They seem to have resistance w=
hen I push/pull them so I am pretty sure they work as designed.=20
> The car has always been kind of skittish on rough roads and I am consideri=
ng switching to a tube shock conversion, specifically the one that bolts dir=
ectly to the existing shock mounts.
> Originality isn=E2=80=99t my main focus here. I like to drive it aggressiv=
ely.
> I would be interested in anyone=E2=80=99s experience with switching from r=
ear lever shocks to chassis mounted (using the stock shock mounting points) r=
egarding handling improvement or not.
> Thanks in advance,
> Dave Connitt
> =E2=80=9867 TR4A-IRS
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> Sent from my iPhone
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Rebuilt shocks by World Wide Parts in WI. L=
ong overdue on my long term TR3A. No more skitter.<div><br></div><div>The tw=
o race cars Ambro &amp; TR4 have tube shock conversions from RATCO. Works ju=
st fine.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Joe Alexander<div>4505 Donald Dr</div><div>=
Cedar Falls, IA 50613</div><div>The-vintage-racer.com</div><div>Gasketinnova=
tions.com</div><div>Cell: &nbsp;319.464.4711</div><div><br></div></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:34 AM, fubog=
1 via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"2">I've always felt that was a lot of $$ &amp; effort fo=
r what gains???</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">There's nothing wrong with the standard lever-action d=
esign, and Apple Hydraulics will do a 10% stiffer if you want.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">It's hard to evaluate a shock by the push/pull method s=
ince they have a high &amp; low speed function, and you can't feel the high s=
peed by working it by hand.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">A tube shock conversion does make sense on an all-out s=
pec racecar because they've developed them to a point where the ability to a=
djust the rate &amp; proportioning is almost infinite.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Most vintage racers/racecars don't fall into that cate=
gory, and some groups still have vintage rules (I think <img src=3D"https://=
s.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/resources/core/images/emoji/thinkingface.pn=
g" alt=3D"Thinking face" title=3D"Thinking face" style=3D"vertical-align:tex=
t-bottom" width=3D"25" height=3D"25" data-unique-identifier=3D"">)</font></d=
iv>

<div><font size=3D"2"><font size=3D"2">Besides the ability for limited adjus=
tment on some, which is a big plus, I don't see the benefits for most vintag=
e applications, nor street cars.</font></font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Now having said/typed that, this is just my personal o=
pinion, many folks use them, and I'm sure will chime in with their thoughts.=
.. </font><br>
</div>

<div><br>
 </div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Glen Efinger</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----O=
riginal Message-----<br>
From: Dave Connitt via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
To: FOT &lt;FOT@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2021 12:06 pm<br>
Subject: [Fot] Lever arm shocks vs. tube shock conversion<br>
<br>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi all,<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">I am new to the FOS list. I own a 1967 TR4A-IRS that I fini=
shed restoring back in 2013 (DavesTR4A. com). It=E2=80=99s running stock lev=
er type rear shocks that other than cleaning and painting and adding new lin=
ks, I just reinstalled in the the car during the restoration. They seem to h=
ave resistance when I push/pull them so I am pretty sure they work as design=
ed. <br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">The car has always been kind of skittish on rough roads and=
 I am considering switching to a tube shock conversion, specifically the one=
 that bolts directly to the existing shock mounts.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Originality isn=E2=80=99t my main focus here. I like to dri=
ve it aggressively.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">I would be interested in anyone=E2=80=99s experience with s=
witching from rear lever shocks to chassis mounted (using the stock shock mo=
unting points) regarding handling improvement or not.<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks in advance,<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Dave Connitt<br>
</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9867 TR4A-IRS<br>
</div>

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</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br>
</div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br>
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