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Subject: Re: [Fot] synthetic gear lube
From: Paul Ricco via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 11:13:26 -0500
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P.J.

I know that a lot of people on FOT have had different experiences with =
lubricants and there is not one correct answer for all people.  So I do =
not wish to imply that our way is the only way.

We have been testing oils for the last few years.  We wanted to =
understand how different products and brands worked with our specific =
car. =20

We have removed all sythethic and semi-synthetic lubricants from our =
car.

We have switched back to very high quality conventional mineral based =
lubricants. =20

Some of the products we are using go back to things that we learned =
racing Porsche cars 35 years ago.  Things that some of the foremost =
Porsche racing experts in the US shared with us over the years.  These =
are people that support many racing winning cars all over the US.  One =
is an engineer by trade.  Our car is much happier with the conventional =
lubricants.  We chose brands and products very carefully.  We research =
the specs in detail and speak to the engineering departments of the =
companies that produce them.

Our findings are this, cars that were engineered and designed to run =
conventional mineral based oils sometimes prefer them.  The tolerances =
and types of gaskets that were used when our cars were designed pre-date =
the use of synthetic oils in automobiles.  Not to say that synthetics =
cannot work, however we are happier with our car running very high =
quality conventional lubricants.  We have found that the additive =
packages and detergents in modern synthetic are too aggressive for our =
car.  They were causing us more pains than benefits.  We change the oils =
on a regular basis, so aggressive additive packages are not a big =
benefit for us.

A couple things to consider when choosing them:

1.  Gear Oil - If you have a limited slip, make sure it has the correct =
additive package for the LS.  If you still have brass in the gearbox or =
diff, make sure the oil does not exclude its use with brass.  This is =
not as simple as just GL-4 or GL-5 specs.  There are a lot of GL-5 spec =
oils that are safe with brass.  The brass issue comes down to other =
additives.  Read the label and check with the company that makes it.
2.  Engine Oil - High ZDDP content is important=20

We just got done running pretty hard at BHF in very hot weather.  As =
many as 4 sessions a day with only 15 minute breaks between some of =
them.  Our car was very happy with the conventional products that are in =
it now.  Temperatures of the motor and gearbox were down and shifting =
was very consistent throughout all sessions.

Just my experience and thoughts.

Paul Ricco

> On Jun 22, 2022, at 9:29 AM, fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
>=20
> Yup same here, it makes the sync rings crunchy!
>=20
> Glen Efinger
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John H. Hasty via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
> Cc: Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
> Sent: Wed, Jun 22, 2022 10:08 am
> Subject: Re: [Fot] synthetic gear lube
>=20
> Us three
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 22, 2022, at 9:21 AM, walt--- via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
>>=20
>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF
>=20
> I have a lot of experience using synthetic lubricants in racing =
engines, transmissions and differentials. There are lots of advantages =
such as the differential running cooler etc. however the limited slip =
probably will not function as effectively. With regards to transmissions =
it has been my experience that with synthetic lube installed the syncros =
do not function as effectively and shifts will be slower, you=E2=80=99ll =
have to double clutch more then parts will fail.
> Walter Hollowell
> =20
> From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net =
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 6:27 AM
> Cc: Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
> Subject: Re: [Fot] synthetic gear lube
> =20
> i've heard of good l with lightweight shock proof in the transmission =
as well.  Maybe a quick note to Jamie Houseman (racegearbox.com =
<http://racegearbox.com/>) as he is the T50 Guru!
> =20
> aaron
> =20
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 11:26 PM DAVE HOGYE via Fot =
> Same as Brad.
> Dave H.
> > On 06/21/2022 7:00 PM Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
> >=20
> > =20
> > Redline MT-90 GL-4 for the gearbox.=20
> >=20
> > Redline Lightweight Shockproof for the diff.
> >=20
> > Brad Eells
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >=20
> > > On Jun 21, 2022, at 6:56 PM, McKearn McKearn via Fot =
> > >=20
> > > =EF=BB=BF
> > > Hi Friends.
> > >   I am looking for recommendations as to which synthetic gear lube =
to use in my GT6?  Transmission is Toyota T50, rear end is GT6 ,would =
like to convert both to synthetic. =20
> > > Thanks. P.J.
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">P.J.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I =
know that a lot of people on FOT have had different experiences with =
lubricants and there is not one correct answer for all people. &nbsp;So =
I do not wish to imply that our way is the only way.<br class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">We have been testing =
oils for the last few years. &nbsp;We wanted to understand how different =
products and brands worked with our specific car. &nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">We have removed all =
sythethic and semi-synthetic lubricants from our car.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">We have switched back to =
very high quality conventional mineral based lubricants. =
&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Some of =
the products we are using go back to things that we learned racing =
Porsche cars 35 years ago. &nbsp;Things that some of the foremost =
Porsche racing experts in the US shared with us over the years. =
&nbsp;These are people that support many racing winning cars all over =
the US. &nbsp;One is an engineer by trade. &nbsp;Our car is much happier =
with the conventional lubricants. &nbsp;We chose brands and products =
very carefully. &nbsp;We research the specs in detail and speak to the =
engineering departments of the companies that produce them.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Our findings are this, =
cars that were engineered and designed to run conventional mineral based =
oils sometimes prefer them. &nbsp;The tolerances and types of gaskets =
that were used when our cars were designed pre-date the use of synthetic =
oils in automobiles. &nbsp;Not to say that synthetics cannot work, =
however we are happier with our car running very high quality =
conventional lubricants. &nbsp;We have found that the additive packages =
and detergents in modern synthetic are too aggressive for our car. =
&nbsp;They were causing us more pains than benefits. &nbsp;We change the =
oils on a regular basis, so aggressive additive packages are not a big =
benefit for us.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">A couple things to consider when choosing them:</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">1. &nbsp;Gear Oil - If =
you have a limited slip, make sure it has the correct additive package =
for the LS. &nbsp;If you still have brass in the gearbox or diff, make =
sure the oil does not exclude its use with brass. &nbsp;This is not as =
simple as just GL-4 or GL-5 specs. &nbsp;There are a lot of GL-5 spec =
oils that are safe with brass. &nbsp;The brass issue comes down to other =
additives. &nbsp;Read the label and check with the company that makes =
it.</div><div class=3D"">2. &nbsp;Engine Oil - High ZDDP content is =
important&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">We just got done running pretty hard at BHF in very hot =
weather. &nbsp;As many as 4 sessions a day with only 15 minute breaks =
between some of them. &nbsp;Our car was very happy with the conventional =
products that are in it now. &nbsp;Temperatures of the motor and gearbox =
were down and shifting was very consistent throughout all =
sessions.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Just =
my experience and thoughts.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D"">Paul Ricco</div><div class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jun =
22, 2022, at 9:29 AM, fubog1 via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><div style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; =
font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><font size=3D"2" class=3D"">Yup =
same here, it makes the sync rings crunchy!<br =
class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><font size=3D"2" class=3D"">Glen Efinger</font><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica; font-size: =
10pt;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" class=3D"">-----Original =
Message-----<br class=3D"">From: John H. Hasty via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">To:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:walt@hot-tr6.com"; class=3D"">walt@hot-tr6.com</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:walt@hot-tr6.com"; class=3D"">walt@hot-tr6.com</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Cc: Brad Eells via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Sent: Wed, Jun 22, =
2022 10:08 am<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Fot] synthetic gear lube<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></font><div id=3D"yiv3750758958" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"2" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Us three<br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div =
id=3D"yiv3750758958yqtfd29078" class=3D"yiv3750758958yqt4831813383"><br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Jun =
22, 2022, at 9:21 AM, walt--- via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""></blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"yiv3750758958yqtfd35771" =
class=3D"yiv3750758958yqt4831813383"><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF</div></blockquote></div></div><div =
id=3D"yiv3750758958yqtfd61108" class=3D"yiv3750758958yqt4831813383"><div =
class=3D""><div id=3D"yiv3750758958yqtfd40284" =
class=3D"yiv3750758958yqt4831813383"><div =
class=3D"yiv3750758958WordSection1"><div class=3D"yiv3750758958MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">I have =
a lot of experience using synthetic lubricants in racing engines, =
transmissions and differentials. There are lots of advantages such as =
the differential running cooler etc. however the limited slip probably =
will not function as effectively. With regards to transmissions it has =
been my experience that with synthetic lube installed the syncros do not =
function as effectively and shifts will be slower, you=E2=80=99ll have =
to double clutch more then parts will fail.</div><div =
class=3D"yiv3750758958MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: sans-serif;">Walter Hollowell</div><div =
class=3D"yiv3750758958MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: sans-serif;">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"border-style: solid =
none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); =
padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=3D""><div class=3D"yiv3750758958MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;"><b =
class=3D"">From:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Fot=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Aaron Johnson =
via Fot<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, June 22, 2022 =
6:27 AM<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>DAVE HOGYE &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">dlhogye@comcast.net</a>&gt;<br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Brad Eells via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] synthetic gear =
lube</div></div><div class=3D"yiv3750758958MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: =
0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"yiv3750758958MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">i've heard of good l with =
lightweight shock proof in the transmission as well.&nbsp; Maybe a quick =
note to Jamie Houseman (<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://racegearbox.com/"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">racegearbox.com</a>) as he is =
the T50 Guru!</div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"yiv3750758958MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
sans-serif;">&nbsp;</div></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"yiv3750758958MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: sans-serif;">aaron</div></div></div><div =
class=3D"yiv3750758958MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: sans-serif;">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div=
 class=3D"yiv3750758958MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: sans-serif;">On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 11:26 PM DAVE HOGYE =
via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer =
noopener" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div></div><blockquote =
style=3D"border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; =
margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"yiv3750758958MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: sans-serif;">Same as Brad.<br clear=3D"none"=
 class=3D"">Dave H.<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; On 06/21/2022 7:00 =
PM Brad Eells via Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">&gt; Redline MT-90 GL-4 for the gearbox.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">&gt;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; Redline Lightweight Shockproof for the =
diff.<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">&gt; Brad Eells<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt; Sent from =
my iPhone<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D"">&gt; &gt; On Jun 21, 2022, at 6:56 PM, McKearn McKearn via =
Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer =
noopener" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" =
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