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To: Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Frame paint
From: Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 20:13:09 -0400
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I used to have SCUBA tanks painted in Imron. They stopped allowing them to
be refilled because you couldn't see any cracks/ damage.  Keep that in mind
on a race car chassis, you don't want a shiny, hard, paint job to hide
stress cracks,

mike h

On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 7:20=E2=80=AFPM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.tea=
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wrote:

> Hi Joe.  When I bought the Imron for my car in 1980, the guy wouldn't sel=
l
> it to me unless I also bought the respirator he recommended!  Strong stuf=
f.
>
> Jack
>
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:33:26 AM EDT, Joe Alexander <
> joealexandervintage@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> In the 70s we were painting John Deere Tractors in DuPont Imron. What
> wasn=E2=80=99t done by robots was done by painters in HazMat Suits.
>
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
>
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> On Sep 28, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> I don't know if it is even still available, but years ago I painted the
> frame on my race car with Dupont Imron.  It was the most durable paint
> available at the time, and my experience reflected that.  The stuff is ve=
ry
> toxic, so you must use a very good respirator.
>
> Jack
>
> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:28:28 AM EDT, Tony Drews via Fot <
> fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Grey will show cracks better than black.  POR is the first thing that cam=
e
> to mind for me, but it's been YEARS since I used it.
>
> Cheers, Tony
> On 9/27/2023 10:21 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote:
>
> I'd suggest POR 15.  Depending on the color, the number changes.  I think
> 15 is black.  Gray is something else, maybe 10.  Spray or brush on.  I've
> used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spray cans are perfectly matched to
> the quart cans, and you can get it just about anywhere.  POR products mig=
ht
> be a little more durable than Rustoleum.  If the frame is bare metal, an
> epoxy primer is a good start, but with POR I "think" you can skip the
> primer.
> Dave H.
>
> On 09/27/2023 5:55 PM PDT McKearn McKearn via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hi All.
>   It's been a long time since I've painted a frame and I'm just wondering
> what the latest / greatest thing to use is for a race car frame ? It's
> already sand blasted if that matters..
>    Thanks.  P.J.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I used to have SCUBA tanks painted in Imron. They stopped =
allowing them to be refilled because you couldn&#39;t see any cracks/ damag=
e.=C2=A0 Keep that in mind on a race car chassis, you don&#39;t want a shin=
y, hard, paint job to hide stress cracks,<div><br></div><div>mike h</div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
 Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 7:20=E2=80=AFPM Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div>=
</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Joe.=C2=A0 When I bought the Imron for my car i=
n 1980, the guy wouldn&#39;t sell it to me unless I also bought the respira=
tor he recommended!=C2=A0 Strong stuff.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br></div><div><br></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"m_-3131920400416605491ydp9eeb879fyahoo_quoted_6056=
596275">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:33:26 AM EDT, Joe=
 Alexander &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:joealexandervintage@gmail.com"; target=3D"_=
blank">joealexandervintage@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"m_-3131920400416605491ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320=
890"><div>In the 70s we were painting John Deere Tractors in DuPont Imron. =
What wasn=E2=80=99t done by robots was done by painters in HazMat Suits.<br=
 clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"ltr">Joe Alexander<div>4505 =
Donald Dr</div><div>Cedar Falls, IA 50613</div><div>The-vintage-racer.com</=
div><div>Gasketinnovations.com</div><div>Cell: =C2=A0319.464.4711</div><div=
><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"m_-313192040041=
6605491ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890yqtfd60849"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">On Sep 28, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div></div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"m_-3131920400416605491ydp9=
eeb879fyiv2577320890yqtfd04871">=EF=BB=BF<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">I don&#39;t know if it is even still available, bu=
t years ago I painted the frame on my race car with Dupont Imron.=C2=A0 It =
was the most durable paint available at the time, and my experience reflect=
ed that.=C2=A0 The stuff is very toxic, so you must use a very good respira=
tor.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"m_-3131920400416605491ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890ydpc=
738254eyahoo_quoted_6378525148">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
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                <div>
                    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:28:28 AM EDT, Ton=
y Drews via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"m_-3131920400416605491ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320=
890ydpc738254eyiv2026604046"><div>
    <p>Grey will show cracks better than black.=C2=A0 POR is the first thin=
g
      that came to mind for me, but it&#39;s been YEARS since I used it.</p=
>
    <p>Cheers, Tony<br clear=3D"none">
    </p>
    <div id=3D"m_-3131920400416605491ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890ydpc738254eyiv=
2026604046yqtfd35055"><div>On 9/27/2023 10:21 PM, DAVE HOGYE via
      Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"m_-3131920400416605491ydp9eeb879f=
yiv2577320890ydpc738254eyiv2026604046yqtfd57320"></div><div><div id=3D"m_-3=
131920400416605491ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890ydpc738254eyiv2026604046yqtfd1721=
1"><div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;colo=
r:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">I&#3=
9;d suggest
          POR 15.=C2=A0 Depending on the color, the number changes.=C2=A0 I=
 think
          15 is black.=C2=A0 Gray is something else, maybe 10.=C2=A0 Spray =
or
          brush on.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spr=
ay
          cans are perfectly matched to the quart cans, and you can get
          it just about anywhere.=C2=A0 POR products might be a little more
          durable than Rustoleum.=C2=A0 If the frame is bare metal, an epox=
y
          primer is a good start, but with POR I &quot;think&quot; you can =
skip
          the primer.=C2=A0=C2=A0</span> </div>
      <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;c=
olor:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">D=
ave H.=C2=A0=C2=A0</span>
      </div>
      <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;c=
olor:rgb(51,51,51)"> =C2=A0 </div>
      <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;c=
olor:rgb(51,51,51)"> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt">On 09/27/2023 5:55 PM P=
DT McKearn
          McKearn via Fot <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.n=
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        <div> =C2=A0 </div>
        <div> =C2=A0 </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr"> Hi All. <br clear=3D"none">
          <div> =C2=A0 It&#39;s been a long time since I&#39;ve painted a f=
rame and
            I&#39;m just wondering what the latest / greatest thing to use
            is for a race car frame ? It&#39;s already=C2=A0sand blasted if=
 that
            matters.. </div>
          <div> =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks.=C2=A0 P.J. </div>
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