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Re: [Fot] My Video from the Kastner Cup

To: "'Bob Kramer'" <rkramer56@gmail.com>, <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] My Video from the Kastner Cup
From: Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 15:25:05 +0200
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Dear Bob,

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I know how hard is to work on bad habbits. I do this all the time =
myself.

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If I approach a corner I brake and short before turning in I shift down =
gears to be easy on the drivetrain and the engine and not unsettling the =
car.

See my mistake last year at Dijon when I damaged the IMSA TR8 when I =
unsettled the car on downshift in the rain on slicks and lost it.

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I use on the TR4 original calipers with the cheapest type brake disc =
from the Bastuck company. They last long.

As brake pad I use Pagid racing pads with RSL1 compund. I get along one =
season with a set of pads and about 8 seasons on the discs.

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Cheers

Chris

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From: Bob Kramer <rkramer56@gmail.com>=20
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2025 3:02 PM
To: tr4racing@googlemail.com
Cc: Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] My Video from the Kastner Cup

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I have no issues with the steering wheel so I've never fixed it, but I =
look at it every time I sit in the car and think I should. I tend to use =
the engine to help braking way too much, and after this experience at =
Lime Rock, and watching myself screw up,  I spent my next racing weekend =
at Eagles Canyon focusing on not using engine braking, with some =
success. Old habits die hard.

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I just can't get myself to trust the brakes on this car. The pulsating I =
get through the front pads is pretty extreme so I find myself =
overreacting. I should just give in and replace the heavy B Series =
calipers with later TR6 ones, but the car is so original I have kept it =
that way.

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After the Lime Rock weekend I looked at the brakes and should probably =
have replaced the rotors but decided to get one more weekend out of =
them.  After the ECR weekend, which is much harder on the brakes than =
LRP, I went through the brakes. The Carbotech front pads had eaten =
through a third set of rotors and they are still only halfway used up, =
and the rear shoe friction materials were all beginning to crack. They =
must be made of granite. I've got a set of Porterfields ordered to =
replace them.=20

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All the best,

Bob

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On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 3:03=E2=80=AFAM <tr4racing@googlemail.com =

Cool racing!

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What would disturb me a lot is the left pointing of the steering wheel.

And save your engine on down shifts=E2=80=A6..far too high revs =
bothering the engine without any need.

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Cheers

Chris

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From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 4:32 AM
Subject: [Fot] My Video from the Kastner Cup

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I've finally got my video uploaded from the Kastner Cup. Never having =
been to Lime Rock previously I foolishly skipped the Test and Tune =
session and I tried to shorten the learning curve. I think I started =
24th and ended up 15th, so you'll see me passing and being passed!

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https://youtu.be/Wria1llOAJ8?si=3DMattiUd2LaHKUse0

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Bob Kramer


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style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Dear =
Bob,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I know how hard is to =
work on bad habbits. I do this all the time =
myself.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>If I approach a =
corner I brake and short before turning in I shift down gears to be easy =
on the drivetrain and the engine and not unsettling the =
car.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>See my mistake last year at Dijon when I =
damaged the IMSA TR8 when I unsettled the car on downshift in the rain =
on slicks and lost it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I use on the TR4 =
original calipers with the cheapest type brake disc from the Bastuck =
company. They last long.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>As brake pad I use Pagid racing pads with =
RSL1 compund. I get along one season with a set of pads and about 8 =
seasons on the discs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Bob Kramer =
&lt;rkramer56@gmail.com&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 22, 2025 =
3:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> tr4racing@googlemail.com<br><b>Cc:</b> Fot =
&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] My Video from =
the Kastner Cup<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have =
no issues with the steering wheel so I've never fixed it,&nbsp;but I =
look at&nbsp;it every time I sit in the&nbsp;car and think I should. I =
tend to use the engine to help braking way too much, and after this =
experience at Lime Rock, and watching myself screw up,&nbsp; I spent my =
next racing&nbsp;weekend at Eagles Canyon focusing on not using =
engine&nbsp;braking, with&nbsp;some success. Old habits die =
hard.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
just can't get myself to trust the brakes on this car. The pulsating I =
get through the front pads is pretty extreme so I find =
myself&nbsp;overreacting. I should just give in and replace&nbsp;the =
heavy B Series calipers with later TR6 ones, but the car is so original =
I have kept it that way.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>After the Lime Rock weekend I looked at the brakes and =
should probably have replaced the rotors but decided to get one more =
weekend out of them.&nbsp; After the ECR weekend, which is much harder =
on the&nbsp;brakes than LRP, I went through the brakes. The Carbotech =
front pads had eaten through a third set of rotors and they are still =
only halfway used up, and the rear shoe friction materials were all =
beginning&nbsp;to crack. They must be made of granite. I've got a set of =
Porterfields ordered to replace =
them.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>All the best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bob<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 3:03<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>AM &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DDE style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Cool =
racing!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DDE style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>What would disturb me a lot is the left =
pointing of the steering wheel.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>And save your engine on down =
shifts=E2=80=A6..far too high revs bothering the engine without any =
need.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Bob Kramer via Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 17, 2025 =
4:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Fot] My =
Video from the Kastner Cup</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I've =
finally got my video uploaded&nbsp;from the Kastner Cup. Never having =
been to Lime Rock previously I foolishly skipped the Test and Tune =
session and I tried to shorten the learning curve. I think I started =
24th and ended up 15th, so you'll see me passing and being =
passed!<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a =
href=3D"https://youtu.be/Wria1llOAJ8?si=3DMattiUd2LaHKUse0"; =
target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/Wria1llOAJ8?si=3DMattiUd2LaHKUse0</a><=
o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Bob =
Kramer<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></d=
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