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I=E2=80=99ve got the Southwick parts and made the cutting and welding =
myself.
Not too difficult.
=20
Cheers
Chris
=20
What a shame the car rolled. I was working on the engine short before =
the race to make the car going and the laptimes were promising.
After 2 hours the axle broke. Too bad.
=20
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From: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net>=20
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2025 8:07 PM
To: tr4racing@googlemail.com; Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>; =
Bob Kramer <rkramer56@gmail.com>; Philip Gott <vfracing@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Southwick Conversion
=20
Yes, Joe. I have brought this up to the group before.=20
Southwick does not true or align the tubes to the housing before welding =
on the flanges. They set the Ford flanges on a long straight/solid rod, =
that is attached at the carrier bearing saddles and sticks out of the =
axle tubes and then weld the flanges on the tubes. These alignment =
tools are available, for a few hundred bucks. So, the tube ends will =
likely be off center to the flanges as mine very obviously were if the =
tubes are not trued. I called Southwick about this. This might not be =
a big deal to most, but why not true the tubes in the housing before =
welding on the flanges. The i.d. of the flange is larger than the o.d. =
of the tube and the large gap gets filled with a big fat weld, instead =
of using a spacer sleeve. On a TR3 the big fat weld fouls the U-bolts =
so the weld has to be ground down a lot for the U-bolts to fit =
correctly. It would be great if the Ford flanges could be made to the =
correct i.d. for different size tubes. =20
=20
Dave H.=20
On 09/29/2025 7:35 AM PDT Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
=20
=20
Dear Friends,
=20
thank you for your help.
=20
I=E2=80=99m asking for a fellow racer. He was competing in the 6h race =
at Spa, broke the axle and rolled the car.
I=E2=80=99m not sure if it will be repaired but just in race I advised =
them to fit the Southwick conversion.
=20
Thanks anyway=E2=80=A6.(my car has already the Southwick axle =
installed).
=20
Cheers
Chris
=20
=20
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2025 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Southwick Conversion
=20
I bet we could come up with a spare TR4 housing and plates to save Chris =
some of the shipping costs.
=20
On Mon, Sep 29, 2025 at 8:29=E2=80=AFAM Philip Gott via Fot =
We had them do a conversion about 5 years ago. Need to send them an =
axle housing and the backing plates.
Phil
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 29, 2025, at 8:37=E2=80=AFAM, Chris Marx via Fot =
>=20
> Hi Guys,
>=20
> is the Southwick system still available?
> Where to obtain?
>=20
> Cheers
> Chris
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style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I=E2=80=99ve got the =
Southwick parts and made the cutting and welding =
myself.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Not too difficult.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>What a shame the car =
rolled. I was working on the engine short before the race to make the =
car going and the laptimes were promising.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>After 2 hours the =
axle broke. Too bad.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> DAVE HOGYE =
<dlhogye@comcast.net> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 29, 2025 =
8:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> tr4racing@googlemail.com; Chris Marx via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net>; Bob Kramer <rkramer56@gmail.com>; =
Philip Gott <vfracing@aol.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] =
Southwick Conversion<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Yes, =
Joe. I have brought this up to the group before. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Southwick =
does not true or align the tubes to the housing before welding on the =
flanges. They set the Ford flanges on a long straight/solid rod, =
that is attached at the carrier bearing saddles and sticks out of the =
axle tubes and then weld the flanges on the tubes. These alignment =
tools are available, for a few hundred bucks. So, the tube ends =
will likely be off center to the flanges as mine very obviously were if =
the tubes are not trued. I called Southwick about this. This =
might not be a big deal to most, but why not true the tubes in the =
housing before welding on the flanges. The i.d. of the flange is =
larger than the o.d. of the tube and the large gap gets filled with a =
big fat weld, instead of using a spacer sleeve. On a TR3 the big =
fat weld fouls the U-bolts so the weld has to be ground down a lot for =
the U-bolts to fit correctly. It would be great if the Ford =
flanges could be made to the correct i.d. for different size =
tubes. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Dave H. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 09/29/2025 7:35 AM PDT Chris Marx via Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal> =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal> =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Dear Friends,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>thank you for your =
help.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I=E2=80=99m asking for a fellow racer. He was =
competing in the 6h race at Spa, broke the axle and rolled the =
car.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>I=E2=80=99m not sure if it will be repaired =
but just in race I advised them to fit the Southwick =
conversion.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks anyway=E2=80=A6.(my car has already =
the Southwick axle installed).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><spa=
n =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/strong><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Bob Kramer =
<<a href=3D"mailto:rkramer56@gmail.com";>rkramer56@gmail.com</a>> =
<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></strong> Monday, =
September 29, 2025 4:19 PM<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To:</span></strong> Philip =
Gott <<a =
href=3D"mailto:vfracing@aol.com";>vfracing@aol.com</a>><br><strong><spa=
n style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Cc:</span></strong> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>; =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><br><strong><spa=
n style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></strong> =
Re: [Fot] Southwick Conversion</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I bet we =
could come up with a spare TR4 housing and plates to save Chris some of =
the shipping costs.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Mon, Sep =
29, 2025 at 8:29<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>AM Philip Gott =
via Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>We had them do a =
conversion about 5 years ago. Need to send them an axle housing =
and the backing plates.<br>Phil<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>> =
On Sep 29, 2025, at 8:37<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>AM, Chris Marx =
via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> Hi =
Guys,<br>> <br>> is the Southwick system still available?<br>> =
Where to obtain?<br>> <br>> Cheers<br>> Chris<br>> <br>> =
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