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To: Jeff Snook <jeffsnook01@gmail.com>, Friends of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: TR3 Head
From: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 12:03:46 -0700 (PDT)
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Hi Jeff,
TR3 and TR4 are basically the same, with slight and insignificant variation=
s.  TR4A is slightly different and improved. =20
TR4A has a horizontal/level flat with a number stamped just above the numbe=
r 1 cylinder intake port. The number is 511695.  It's easy to see.  I think=
 the latest TR4A heads also had aluminum push rod tubes.  So some TR4A head=
s had steel tubes and later got aluminum.  Other than that all 511695 stamp=
ed heads were the same. =20
The earlier heads had 3/8" exhaust valve stems and 5/16" intakes.  TR4A had=
 5/16" stems on both intake and exhaust.  I believe the early heads used 3 =
springs on the exhaust valve as well. =20
=20
Best,
Dave H.=20
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> On 07/20/2026 10:41 AM PDT Jeff Snook <jeffsnook01@gmail.com> wrote:
> =20
> =20
> Hi everyone,
>=20
> Mike Moore has a few spare heads but isn't sure if they are from a TR3 or=
 a TR4.
>=20
> Can anyone help us describe how to differentiate a TR3 head from a TR4 he=
ad so we can see if one of his spares will work for our customer's car?
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Jeff Snook
> 419-344-0319
> http://www.snooksdreamcars.com
>=20
>=20
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Michael Moore <mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com mailto:mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com>
> Date: Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 11:03=E2=80=AFAM
> Subject: RE: [Fot] TR3 Head
> To: Jeff Snook <jeffsnook01@gmail.com mailto:jeffsnook01@gmail.com>
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Jeff, any difference between a TR3 head and TR4 head?
>=20
> =20
>=20
> I have a few spares but don=E2=80=99t what the engines came from.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Have a Good Day
>=20
> Mike
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Michael T. Moore, CPA
>=20
> 3255 West 26th Street
>=20
> Erie, PA 16506
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Phone:  814-616-8652  ext 100
>=20
> Fax:        888-865-5279
>=20
> Email:    mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com mailto:mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com
>=20
> =20
>=20
> This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged=
 information intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of t=
his message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified th=
at any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is=
 strictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediat=
ely by return email and destroy this copy of this message.
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> =20
>=20
> =20
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> =20
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> From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net> =
On Behalf Of Jeff Snook
> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2026 10:27 AM
> To: Friends of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] TR3 Head
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Hey all, we are finishing up repairs/service to a 1959 TR3 for a customer=
, except it seems it is never ending!  The head was sent to the machine sho=
p for a refresh and they determined it is cracked and not easily repairable=
.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> So we are looking for a usable stock TR3 head.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> If anyone has one, let me know.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Vroom, vroom,
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Jeff Snook
>=20
> 419-344-0319http://www.snooksdreamcars.com
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
> =20
> --
> Jeff Snook
> 419-344-0319http://www.snooksdreamcars.com
> =20
> _______________________________________________
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Hi Jeff,</span>
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tica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">TR3 and TR4 are=
 basically the same, with slight and insignificant variations.&nbsp; TR4A i=
s slightly different and improved.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
  </div>=20
  <div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helve=
tica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">TR4A has a hori=
zontal/level flat with a number stamped just above the number 1 cylinder in=
take port. The number is 511695.&nbsp; It's easy to see.&nbsp; I think the =
latest TR4A heads also had aluminum push rod tubes.&nbsp; So some TR4A head=
s had steel tubes and later got aluminum.&nbsp; Other than that all 511695 =
stamped heads were the same.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
  </div>=20
  <div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helve=
tica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">The earlier hea=
ds had 3/8" exhaust valve stems and 5/16" intakes.&nbsp; TR4A had 5/16" ste=
ms on both intake and exhaust.&nbsp; I believe the early heads used 3 sprin=
gs on the exhaust valve as well.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
  </div>=20
  <div class=3D"default-style" style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helve=
tica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   &nbsp;
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tica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Best,</span>
  </div>=20
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tica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Dave H.&nbsp;</=
span>
  </div>=20
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tica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">
   &nbsp;
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    On 07/20/2026 10:41 AM PDT Jeff Snook &lt;jeffsnook01@gmail.com&gt; wro=
te:
   </div>=20
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    &nbsp;
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    &nbsp;
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   <div dir=3D"ltr">
    Hi everyone,
    <br>
    <br>Mike Moore has a few spare heads but isn't sure if they are from a =
TR3 or a TR4.
    <br>
    <br>Can anyone help us describe how to differentiate a TR3 head from a =
TR4 head so we can see if one of his spares will work for our customer's ca=
r?
    <br>
    <br>Thanks,
    <br>
    <br>Jeff Snook
    <br>419-344-0319
    <br><a href=3D"http://www.snooksdreamcars.com";>www.snooksdreamcars.com<=
/a>
    <br>
    <br>=20
    <div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container">=20
     <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">
      ---------- Forwarded message ---------
      <br>From: <strong class=3D"gmail_sendername" dir=3D"auto">Michael Moo=
re</strong> <span dir=3D"auto">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com"=
>mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com</a>&gt;</span>
      <br>Date: Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 11:03=E2=80=AFAM
      <br>Subject: RE: [Fot] TR3 Head
      <br>To: Jeff Snook &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jeffsnook01@gmail.com";>jeffs=
nook01@gmail.com</a>&gt;
     </div>=20
     <br>
     <br>=20
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      <div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word;">=20
       <div class=3D"m_-7968316414066489619WordSection1">=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;">Jeff, any=
 difference between a TR3 head and TR4 head?<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;"><u></u>&n=
bsp;<u></u></span></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;">I have a =
few spares but don=E2=80=99t what the engines came from.<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;"><u></u>&n=
bsp;<u></u></span></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'PPC Handwriting=
'; color: #006600;">Have a Good Day</span><u></u><u></u></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'PPC Handwriting=
'; color: #006600;">Mike<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri',sans-s=
erif; color: #006600;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #006600;">Michael T. M=
oore, CPA<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #006600;">3255 West 26=
<sup>th</sup> Street</span><u></u><u></u></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #006600;">Erie, PA 165=
06<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #006600;"><u></u>&nbsp=
;<u></u></span></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #006600;">Phone:&nbsp;=
 814-616-8652&nbsp; ext 100<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #006600;">Fax:&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 888-865-5279<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #006600;">Email:&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><a href=3D"mailto:mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com"; target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noopener"><span style=3D"color: #0563c1;">mmoore@mtmcpafirm.com<=
/span></a><u></u><u></u></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: #006600;"><u></u>&nbsp=
;<u></u></span></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-autospace: none;"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 9.0pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; color: black;">=
This electronic mail message contains confidential and legally privileged i=
nformation intended only for the use of the recipient. If the reader of thi=
s message is not the intended recipient, the reader is hereby notified that=
 any dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message is s=
trictly prohibited and is hereby instructed to notify the sender immediatel=
y by return email and destroy this copy of this message.<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #006600;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>=
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        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;"><u></u>&n=
bsp;<u></u></span></p>=20
        <div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt; paddin=
g: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">=20
         <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; f=
ont-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font=
-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;"> Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">fot-bounc=
es@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Jeff Snook<br><stro=
ng>Sent:</strong> Monday, July 20, 2026 10:27 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> Fr=
iends of Triumph &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"noopener">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> =
[Fot] TR3 Head<u></u><u></u></span></p>=20
        </div>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hey all, we are finishing up repairs/service=
 to a 1959 TR3 for a customer, except it seems it is never ending!&nbsp; Th=
e head was sent to the machine shop for a refresh and they determined it is=
 cracked and not easily repairable.<u></u><u></u></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">So we are looking for a usable stock TR3 hea=
d.<u></u><u></u></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">If anyone has one, let me know.<u></u><u></u=
></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Vroom, vroom,<u></u><u></u></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jeff Snook<u></u><u></u></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal">419-344-0319<u></u><u></u></p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"http://www.snooksdreamcars.com"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">www.snooksdreamcars.com</a><u></u><u></u>=
</p>=20
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>=20
       </div>=20
      </div>=20
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    </div>=20
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     &nbsp;
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     &nbsp;
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    <br>=20
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ature">=20
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      Jeff Snook=20
      <div>
       419-344-0319
      </div>=20
      <div>
       <a href=3D"http://www.snooksdreamcars.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noopener">www.snooksdreamcars.com</a>
      </div>=20
      <div>
       &nbsp;
      </div>=20
     </div>=20
    </div>=20
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