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Re: [Healeys] [Fwd: Oil Pressure Control]

To: Joe and Lenore Armour <sebring@illawarra.hotkey.net.au>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] [Fwd: Oil Pressure Control]
From: Olin Brimberry <healey@hunterbane.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 10:13:22 -0400
After all this discussion, I looked to find a graphic that would help  
to explain this and I simply searched google for "Healey 3000 oil  
pressure relief" and found this informative article:

  
http://www.carolinahealeys.com/Technical/Engine/oil%20pressure%20diagnostics.htm

So, for those that are still stumped: your homework assignment is to  
read the above.  Test on Monday.

Olin


On Oct 1, 2010, at 2:04 AM, Joe and Lenore Armour wrote:

> FWIW  I have never been able to accept that the crude Healey (all  
> BMC for that matter) 'pressure relief' valve, opens and closes that  
> many times per second to manage the oil pressure we see at the  
> gauge. The seat and valve are too poor a fit to be a positive seal  
> and it  does not remain shut until a certain pressure is reached.   
> The volume of oil that flows thro a restriction, ie bearings and  
> spray holes etc varies with tempreture, engine speed and general  
> condition and bearing clearences.
>
> May I suggest that our 'relief valves' are flow control valves and  
> apart from when the engine is stopped, the valve is never in the  
> closed position and thus providing a positive shut-off. The spring/ 
> valve manages pressure by controlling the volume of oil allowed to  
> by-pass into the sump.If you inspect a valve it usually is a loose  
> fit in the bore and shows signs of having wear on opposite sides at  
> the two ends, an indication that it spends most of its life rocking  
> back and foward in its bore. Usually most of the oil supplied from  
> the pump should be far in excess of the volume that can circulate  
> thro the engine and therefore is continuously being by-passed back  
> into the sump (pan).
>
> Most hydraulic system start-ups require ALL air to be bled before  
> commissioning.
>
> Therefore it is most likely the weak spring tension that is allowing  
> too much oil to by-pass when pressures are insufficient with the  
> engine in GOOD condition.
> I drove my BN.4 on my honeymoon with 15 psi on cold start up, 12 psi  
> hot and used it as an every day work transport from Dec. to April  
> when a re-build was in order.
>
> Are there any hydraulic engineers out there?  I am just a simple  
> working man.
>
> Joe
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