My BJ8 # 41193, with a March 28-29,1967 date of build has the rivets in the
headlight rims, and to add fuel to the fire the rivets were/are chrome
plated. I am the second owner of the car which has been well maintained and
never been restored.
FWIW
Dallas
----- Original Message -----
From: <Editorgary@aol.com>
To: <healey@hunterbane.com>
Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ah, the rivet...and the Assumptions Within
> In a message dated 12/6/10 8:26:39 AM, healey@hunterbane.com writes:
>
>
>> I am surprised that you as an editor are using assumptions to make
>> your case, but since I am not, I think I will. I should start off by
>> saying that I am a "have-not" and deeply suffer from the rivet envy
>> because of the emphases placed on it from the "haves". While mine is
>> without, it is still a NOS high quality chrome OEM part that is a
>> correct fit and as it has the same part number as the lucas
>> replacement parts list for a 60-61 year model, which also matches the
>> 62-67 part number on 2 different Lucas catalogues that I have in my
>> possession. So, if they got it wrong, they got it wrong on at least 2
>> accounts.
>>
>
> Interesting comments. People make assumptions all the time to fill in the
> gaps when recorded history is insufficient to provide exact answers. The
> only
> harm is when people overlay known fact with assumptions that suit their
> interpretation of history -- as seems to be the case in politics these
> days --
> What we try to do with the concours standards is to make assumptions and
> label them as such, if we're aware that there is an issue, until we have
> more
> facts.
>
> But, you make an interesting point regarding possibilities for changes in
> the headlamp rim. If other changes were being made that might have
> permitted
> the supplier to make a cost-saving change in the headlight rim during
> production, then dimpled headlight rims should be found on all of the last
> run
> of
> convertibles. All of them. So, the question to people who own phase II
> Mark
> IIIs is: do you have dimples or real rivets with snap brackets on the
> back?
>
> If we could establish that the all of the last convertibles produced had
> the dimples rather than the rivets, then our question would shift to when
> the
> change point occurred, and we could modify the standards to indicate that
> such a change appears to have taken place, but we don't know when.
>
> Is there anyone on this list with a late unrestored convertible -- say,
> built in 1966 -- that has riveted headlamp rims?
> Thanks
> Gary
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