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Re: [Healeys] Fuel (was: tuning and timing)

To: "'Chris Dimmock'" <austin.healey@gmail.com>, "'Bob Spidell'" <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel (was: tuning and timing)
From: "David Porter" <frogeye@porterscustom.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:39:10 -0600
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....OK OK I know this sounds like another snake oil.... but I'm really
impressed with a product call Star-tron (Google/Bing) it. Different from
typical petro based additives. It's an enzyme formulation. NFI, I just like
it enough to recommend to my customers..
Dave

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-----Original Message-----
From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Chris Dimmock
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:58 AM
To: Bob Spidell
Cc: Forum
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel (was: tuning and timing)

Short answer..
It has no tetra ethyl lead.
TEL does more than lubricate.
It burns differently than the additives that replace it.
Tell me why modern fuel goes stale and loses up to 5 octane points after 2
or
3 weeks in a drum/ tank????????
Never used to happen with 100 octane 5 star, did it??????
Why is that??
Chris

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On 07/06/2013, at 12:43 AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

> re: "I run Shell V-Power 99 octane."
>
> 'poor quality' fuel?
>
> Bob
>
>
> --------------------------------
> Bob Spidell - San Jose, CA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>
>
> You can call it whatever you want but it is too low octane for our cars
and
lower than they were designed for so the shop manual guidelines are not
directly applicable. I run Shell V-Power 99 octane.
>
> BTW most octane boosters do not increase the octane content by the amounts
claimed.
>
> Derek
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Bob Spidell < bspidell@comcast.net >
wrote:
>
>
> re: "With the poor quality of todays fuel ..."
>
> What quality issues are we having with today's fuel? Many modern
cars--'family' sedans, even--will do 150MPH and 0-60 in six seconds or less
on
'pump' gas. I just put 3,773 miles on my BJ8 over 6 states on pump
gas--granted, my car is not high-compression; nominal at best--with no
fuel-related issue. I generally buy the 'name' brands--Chevron, Shell,
etc.--but will buy no-name gas if necessary.
>
> AFAIK, the octane-rating tests--motor ('M') and research ('R'); the US
uses
the average of the two--haven't changed in decades, if ever, so today's
91-octane gas has the same anti-detonation quality as 91-octane gas from
1950.
Many, if not all, gas stations have had to replace their underground tanks
to
prevent leakage into the environment; the side-effect being there shouldn't
be
much 50-year-old crud and water sitting on the bottom. It's only anecdotal,
but I put pump gas--probably containing ethanol--into an unlined steel can
for
my lawnmower and have had it sit for 3 years or more with no visible
deterioration of the can or the gas (and the mower still runs fine on it).
>
> Not heckling here; I'd just like to know what fuel quality-related issues
people are having--I haven't heard of any (the carping about alcohol is
another issue--I'm not a fan of the fuel or the political policy, but I
haven't had any trouble with it). Now, if the issue is 95-octane ((R+M)/2)
gas
isn't available at the pump any more; well that's not a quality but a
supply&demand or maybe a cost issue (you can get 100-octane avgas at some
stations in the southwest if you're willing to pay $6+/gal).
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 6/5/2013 11:48 PM, Derek Job wrote:
>
> <blockquote>
> John
>
> With the poor quality of todays fuel I think that 35 degrees advance is
too
> much for a road car. To answer one of your questions, that would be the
> total advance when the mechanical advance is fully operational.
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