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To: sebring3000@bigpond.com, healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bearings
From: warthodson@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:41:21 -0500
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Joe,
Thanks for the very clear explanation! 
Gary Hodson
 
 
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From: J Armour <sebring3000@bigpond.com>
To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Feb 4, 2015 8:12 am
Subject: [Healeys] Bearings


 
When bearings are fitted into an assembly that is somewhat mass produced and 
expected to be dismantled easily either the inner or outer race is required to 
be a sliding/ loose fit by using  predetermined clearances. Bearings can be 
loose/clearance/sliding fit or size for size or interference fitted. In the 
case of our Healey front wheels the inner race fitted to the axle is a sliding 
( loose) fit so that it can be easily dismantled. With the rear wheels the 
inner bearing race  is a sliding fit on both the axle housing and the outer 
race in the hub therefore both need to be prevented from turning which can 
occur with the cyclic load and deflection of the inner and outer races because 
both are clearance fits. 
 
The inner race is locked to the axle housing by torqueing the big nut. The 
outer race is prevented from turning by the fitting of the spacer to provide 
the necessary protrudance to allow the rotating axle to clamp it and prevent 
the outer race from what is known in the industry as 'bearing creep' 
 
  
 
 
The more heavily loaded ( dynamically ) the bearing is and depending on the 
manufacturers clearance allowed to provide ease of assembly and disassembly the 
more likely the bearing is to creep or rotate on its shaft or within its 
housing. Remenber that the load on a bearing is basically vertically down so as 
a hub or axle rotates the bearing race will flex / deflect.  This allows it to 
creep and in extreme cases to spin and damage the surface it sits in or on. 
 
  
 
 
I have seen Healey size front wheel bearings fitted to an Australian G.M. 
vehicle without the famous Healey spacer and shims spin the inner race of the 
bearing and weld itself to the shaft. This resulted in the scrapping of the 
whole stub axle 
 
  
 
 
Remember the manuals are to tell us what to do not necessarily why to do it. 
Most manufacturers do base their designs on some experience which we may never 
be exposed to. The manual also allows for owners with somewhat less knowledge 
to maintain their car and therefore they will maybe over compensate for the 
inexperienced mechanic. 
 
  
 
 
Note, with bearings and other machine bits a shaft and hole that are required 
to be assembled and disassembled with simple tools will not go together when 
they are the same size. That is why tolerences are specified and a clearance in 
thousands of an inch are specified. 
 
Alternative is a huge hammer, a big press or lots of heat and usually throw it 
away. 
 
  
 
 
Joe 
 

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<div><font style="background-color: transparent;">Joe,</font></div>

<div>Thanks for the very clear explanation! </div>

<div>Gary Hodson</div>

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10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: J Armour &lt;sebring3000@bigpond.com&gt;<br>
To: healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Feb 4, 2015 8:12 am<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Bearings<br>
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When bearings are fitted into an assembly that is somewhat mass produced and 
expected to be dismantled easily either the inner or outer race is required to 
be a sliding/ loose fit by using &nbsp;predetermined clearances. Bearings can 
be loose/clearance/sliding fit or size for size or interference fitted. In the 
case of our Healey front wheels the inner race fitted to the axle is a sliding 
( loose) fit so that it can be easily dismantled. With the rear wheels the 
inner bearing race &nbsp;is a sliding fit on both the axle housing and the 
outer race in the hub therefore both need to be prevented from turning which 
can occur with the cyclic load and deflection of the inner and outer races 
because both are clearance fits.
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The inner race is locked to the axle housing by torqueing the big nut. The 
outer race is prevented from turning by the fitting of the spacer to provide 
the necessary protrudance to allow the rotating axle to clamp it and prevent 
the outer race from what is known in the industry as 'bearing creep'
 </div>

 
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  <br>

 </div>

 
<div>
The more heavily loaded ( dynamically ) the bearing is and depending on the 
manufacturers clearance allowed to provide ease of assembly and disassembly the 
more likely the bearing is to creep or rotate on its shaft or within its 
housing. Remenber that the load on a bearing is basically vertically down so as 
a hub or axle rotates the bearing race will flex / deflect. &nbsp;This allows 
it to creep and in extreme cases to spin and damage the surface it sits in or 
on.
 </div>

 
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  <br>

 </div>

 
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I have seen Healey size front wheel bearings fitted to an Australian G.M<font 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">.</font> vehicle without the 
famous Healey spacer and shims spin the inner race of the bearing and weld 
itself to the shaft. This resulted in the scrapping of the whole stub axle
 </div>

 
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  <br>

 </div>

 
<div>
Remember the manuals are to tell us what to do not necessarily why to do it. 
Most manufacturers do base their designs on some experience which we may never 
be exposed to. The manual also allows for owners with somewhat less knowledge 
to maintain their car and therefore they will maybe over compensate for the 
inexperienced mechanic.
 </div>

 
<div>
  <br>

 </div>

 
<div>
Note, with bearings and other machine bits a shaft and hole that are required 
to be assembled and disassembled with simple tools will not go together when 
they are the same size. That is why tolerences are specified and a clearance in 
thousands of an inch are specified.
 </div>

 
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Alternative is a huge hammer, a big press or lots of heat and usually throw it 
away.
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<div>
Joe
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