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Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter resistance-FYI
From: "John Sims" <ahbn6@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 07:46:34 -0400
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Johnson controls which makes Duralast also makes Interstate batteries. Go
figure.

 

 <http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-interstate-batteries/>
http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-interstate-batteries/

 

 

John Sims

Aberdeen, NJ

 

www.healey6.com

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Warren
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 7:11 AM
To: Bob Spidell; Healey List
Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter resistance-FYI

 

    Bob wrote; "I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won't buy another
if I can help it."

 

Speaking of batteries, my experience with Autozone Duralast brand has been
positive. I now have them  in my daily drivers

and the Healey. 

 

 The one in the Healey was purchased 4/10/2003 and still going. I keep a
trickle charger on when stored for 7 mos. and also during driving season
when parked. Whether that has to do with  longevity or luck I don't know?  I
also trickle charge the daily drivers if I'm away for more than a week.
Newer cars drain fast.

 

 I plan to replace the Healey's battery(27-DG)  this spring. Don't want to
push my luck since I will be driving to Gettysburg in July for Enclave.


 
http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-duralast-batteries/

 

WD

67 BJ8

  _____  

Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:47:06 -0700
From: bspidell@comcast.net
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter resistance

An anecdote, but maybe it'll help:

When we restored our BN2, we went back to 2x6V batteries.  We had
intermittent starting problems; connections at the solenoid and elsewhere
would get pistol hot.  We had fabricated our own battery cables--from
double-ought stranded welding cable!--but my dad was worried our soldered
connections were bad.  We often charged the batteries to max charge on a
charger before testing the starting system.

Then, one day Dad accidentally shorted out the two batteries (he's lucky he
didn't get an explosion or splashed with acid, or both).  He replaced the
two batteries and, lo and behold,  the big 4-cyl spins over better than my
BJ8, and the 4 has better compression.  The car may sit for a couple months
but always has charge for a start.  Bottom line: still could be the battery.

Side note: the BN2's batteries are Interstate brand--golf cart batteries,
actually--and so are the 3 batteries I've had in my 2008 Mustang.  That's
right, 3 batteries in 7 years; the first two both went almost exactly at 3
years, I expect the third to go in 3 as well.  These Interstates are hecho
en Mexico; I wanted to buy a Parts+ battery but would have had to wait a day
to get it and this car is my daily driver.  I had a Parts+ battery go 7
years in my BJ8; it was still cranking but was on the low end of a load test
and I was getting ready for a long road trip.  And, it's made in the USA.

I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won't buy another if I can help it.

Bob

On 4/16/2015 5:28 PM, John Spaur wrote:

The pinion gear binds on the worm gear when is spins down and engages the
flywheel starter gear. I can recreate on the bench. When this first occurred
it was because the armature shaft could move too far forward which allowed
the pinon gear to move too far down the worm gear. I put a thrust washer
between the armature and the end plate (inside the motor) to limit the
movement of the armature shaft. There was already a very worn steel thrust
washer in that place.

 

 



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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>Johnson controls which makes Duralast also makes =
Interstate batteries. Go figure.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-interstate-batteries/";>=
<span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-interstate=
-batteries/</span></a><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>John Sims<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>Aberdeen, NJ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'>www.healey6.com<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial =
Black","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Warren<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 17, 2015 7:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
Bob Spidell; Healey List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter =
resistance-FYI<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;Bob =
wrote; &quot;I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won't buy another =
if I can help it.&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
</div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Speaking of batteries, my =
experience with Autozone Duralast brand has been positive. I =
now&nbsp;have them &nbsp;in my daily =
drivers<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>and the =
Healey.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;The one in the Healey =
was purchased 4/10/2003 and still going. I keep a trickle charger on =
when stored for 7 mos. and also during driving season when parked. =
Whether that has to do with &nbsp;longevity or luck I don't know? =
&nbsp;I also trickle charge the daily drivers if I'm away for more than =
a week. Newer cars drain fast.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;I plan to replace the =
Healey's battery(27-DG) &nbsp;this spring. Don't want to push my luck =
since I will be driving to Gettysburg in July for Enclave. &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-duralast-batteries/"; =
target=3D"_blank">http://bestbatterytips.com/tags/who-makes-duralast-batt=
eries/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>WD<o:p></o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>67 =
BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div class=3DMsoNormal =
align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" =
align=3Dcenter id=3DstopSpelling></span></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 =
21:47:06 -0700<br>From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a><br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>Subj=
ect: Re: [Healeys] FW: Starter resistance<br><br>An anecdote, but maybe =
it'll help:<br><br>When we restored our BN2, we went back to 2x6V =
batteries.&nbsp; We had intermittent starting problems; connections at =
the solenoid and elsewhere would get pistol hot.&nbsp; We had fabricated =
our own battery cables--from double-ought stranded welding cable!--but =
my dad was worried our soldered connections were bad.&nbsp; We often =
charged the batteries to max charge on a charger before testing the =
starting system.<br><br>Then, one day Dad accidentally shorted out the =
two batteries (he's lucky he didn't get an explosion or splashed with =
acid, or both).&nbsp; He replaced the two batteries and, lo and =
behold,&nbsp; the big 4-cyl spins over better than my BJ8, and the 4 has =
better compression.&nbsp; The car may sit for a couple months but always =
has charge for a start.&nbsp; Bottom line: still could be the =
battery.<br><br>Side note: the BN2's batteries are Interstate =
brand--golf cart batteries, actually--and so are the 3 batteries I've =
had in my 2008 Mustang.&nbsp; That's right, 3 batteries in 7 years; the =
first two both went almost exactly at 3 years, I expect the third to go =
in 3 as well.&nbsp; These Interstates are hecho en Mexico; I wanted to =
buy a Parts+ battery but would have had to wait a day to get it and this =
car is my daily driver.&nbsp; I had a Parts+ battery go 7 years in my =
BJ8; it was still cranking but was on the low end of a load test and I =
was getting ready for a long road trip.&nbsp; And, it's made in the =
USA.<br><br>I thought Interstate was a good brand; I won't buy another =
if I can help it.<br><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On =
4/16/2015 5:28 PM, John Spaur =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The pinion =
gear binds on the worm gear when is spins down and engages the flywheel =
starter gear. I can recreate on the bench. When this first occurred it =
was because the armature shaft could move too far forward which allowed =
the pinon gear to move too far down the worm gear. I put a thrust washer =
between the armature and the end plate (inside the motor) to limit the =
movement of the armature shaft. There was already a very worn steel =
thrust washer in that place.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><=
span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>=
</div></blockquote><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br><br>____________________=
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