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I'll throw another out there ... Presumably, you have been buying new
angle drives from the usual suspects; I've found that many of the new
parts are not being built to the standards of the originals (duh). I'm
on the first and only angle drive in my BJ8 with nearly 190K miles; so
there's no reason these can't last the lifetime of the car, but there
has been a spate of bad parts recently--water pumps, bearings, most any
rubber part, etc.--and maybe the repro drives just ain't up to snuff.
Also, there were some cables sold that were too long; but I believe they
mostly damaged the speedo.
I'll repeat my recommendation for silicone lubricant; among its other
qualities it doesn't seem to attract dirt and dust like just about any
other lubricant. I've tried moly grease, white lithium grease and
graphite powder--which is exceedingly messy to handle and apply--on
speedo cables and the silicone oil has worked best (my speedo is rock
solid at all speeds). I used it on the Bendix drive of my starter and
it's worked flawlessly for over 100K miles. I know it persists because
silicone is extremely difficult to remove from paint.
Bob
On 5/10/2015 9:19 AM, Mike Garvey wrote:
>
> I neglected to mention that about half way through this saga, I had
> the speedometer rebuilt by West Valley Instruments; presumably they
> would have lubricated any necessary areas.Any other ideas welcomeâ?¦
>
> Thanks, Mike
>
> **
>
> Hi Mike,
> After about the same number of failures I found that the problem was
> actually in the speedometer itself.
> In both cases where I have encountered the problem the odometer itself
> was actually seizing causing the cable to sort of corkscrew and then
> the angle drive failed.
> If you hold the speedometer loosely in your hands and use a drill to
> run the drive, anticlockwise when looking at the back of the
> instrument, after a while you will probably detect resistance to turning.
> I took mine apart and sparingly lubricated the odo and trip shafts and
> in both cases the problem was solved.
>
> Michael S
> BN1 #174
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *Sent: *â??10/â??05/â??2015 9:52 a.m.
> *Subject: *[Healeys] angle speedo drive BJ8
>
> In the three years that I have owned my BJ8, I have gone through three
> right angle speedometer drives.The failure is that the short coil
> spring drive from the transmission to the helical gear fails; it looks
> like a birds nest of broken wires.I am aware of the critical spacer
> washer that must not be forgotten; in fact, this last time, I put in
> two spacer washers, trying to overcome any marginal tolerance issues.I
> also lubricated the speedometer cable liberally with lithium grease.
>
> I checked the autox archive and this question went around in 2009; at
> the time, the remedy was to use only graphite (no grease) to lubricate
> the speedometer cable.Is this still the conventional wisdom?Any advice
> on how to clean out the outer part of the speedometer cable?
>
> Thanks, Mike
>
> Michael Garvey
> 1967 BJ8/38046
> Swampscott, MA
>
>
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I'll throw another out there ... Presumably, you have been buying
new angle drives from the usual suspects; I've found that many of
the new parts are not being built to the standards of the originals
(duh). I'm on the first and only angle drive in my BJ8 with nearly
190K miles; so there's no reason these can't last the lifetime of
the car, but there has been a spate of bad parts recently--water
pumps, bearings, most any rubber part, etc.--and maybe the repro
drives just ain't up to snuff. Also, there were some cables sold
that were too long; but I believe they mostly damaged the speedo.<br>
<br>
I'll repeat my recommendation for silicone lubricant; among its
other qualities it doesn't seem to attract dirt and dust like just
about any other lubricant. I've tried moly grease, white lithium
grease and graphite powder--which is exceedingly messy to handle and
apply--on speedo cables and the silicone oil has worked best (my
speedo is rock solid at all speeds). I used it on the Bendix drive
of my starter and it's worked flawlessly for over 100K miles. I
know it persists because silicone is extremely difficult to remove
from paint.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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New Roman";color:#1F497D">I neglected to mention that
about half way through this saga, I had the speedometer
rebuilt by West Valley Instruments; presumably they would
have lubricated any necessary areas.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes">Â </span>Any other ideas
welcomeâ?¦<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times
New Roman";color:#1F497D">Thanks, Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Mike,<br>
After about the same number of failures I found that the
problem was actually in the speedometer itself.<br>
In both cases where I have encountered the problem the
odometer itself was actually seizing causing the cable to
sort of corkscrew and then the angle drive failed.<br>
If you hold the speedometer loosely in your hands and use
a drill to run the drive, anticlockwise when looking at
the back of the instrument, after a while you will
probably detect resistance to turning.<br>
I took mine apart and sparingly lubricated the odo and
trip shafts and in both cases the problem was solved.<br>
<br>
Michael S<br>
BN1 #174<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;mso-outline-level:1"><b>From: </b><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:r3m1g4@verizon.net";>Mike
Garvey</a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif""><br>
</span><b>Sent: </b>â??10/â??05/â??2015 9:52 a.m.<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif""><br>
</span><b>To: </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif""><br>
</span><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] angle speedo drive BJ8<span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In the three years that I have owned my
BJ8, I have gone through three right angle speedometer drives.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes">Â </span>The failure is that the
short coil spring drive from the transmission to the helical
gear fails; it looks like a birds nest of broken wires.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes">Â </span>I am aware of the
critical spacer washer that must not be forgotten; in fact,
this last time, I put in two spacer washers, trying to
overcome any marginal tolerance issues.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes">Â </span>I also lubricated the
speedometer cable liberally with lithium grease.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I checked the autox archive and this
question went around in 2009; at the time, the remedy was to
use only graphite (no grease) to lubricate the speedometer
cable.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">Â </span>Is this still
the conventional wisdom?<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">Â </span>Any
advice on how to clean out the outer part of the speedometer
cable?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, Mike <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New
Roman";mso-no-proof:yes">Michael Garvey<br>
1967 BJ8/38046<br>
Swampscott, MA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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