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Re: [Healeys] Steering Lever Removal Questions--BJ8

To: Derek Job <derek.c.job@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Lever Removal Questions--BJ8
From: Tim Davis BN7 <tld6008@mchsi.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:46:12 -0400 (EDT)
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Get the Pitman arm puller=20

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From: "Derek Job" <derek.c.job@gmail.com>=20
To: "Michael" <michael.salter@gmail.com>=20
Cc: Healeys@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:42:07 AM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Lever Removal Questions--BJ8=20

This what I used, it is from the UK but no doubt you can get something simi=
lar in the US. If it doesn't work you could try rotating the box as suggest=
ed by Michael, which should give easier access.=20

http://www.auravita.com/product/65mm-Reach-x-75mm-Spread-Twin-Leg-Reversibl=
e-Puller-13906-Draper.JSOB17033.html?RefId=3D225&adid=3DJSOB17033&gclid=3DC=
j0KEQjwkv-rBRDwoMLav-2l9KIBEiQAUTkDU0-EPWV8xUEkXt-NZEjq91sZ5M9oDZ_dPH84PmYt=
URwaAuKb8P8HAQ=20

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Michael < michael.salter@gmail.com > wrote=
:=20



Hi Tom,=20
I don't want to discourage you from trying but in my experience the factory=
 used to really tighten the big nut to ensure that the lever would not come=
 loose on the rocker shaft.=20
As I mentioned in my post http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D967=20
they are often so tight that the pressure required to separate them is suff=
icient to crush the end of the shaft or, if the puller isn't straight, actu=
ally bend the threaded section of the shaft.=20
I would caution you against trying to wedge something between the body of t=
he steering box and the lever as the box is not very strong and is easily b=
roken.=20
If you can get the 3 mounting bolts out, separate the side and center rod b=
all joints and loosen the U clamp under the dash it is possible to rotate t=
he box enough to get the puller described in my blog into position. This sa=
ves having to remove the turn signal switch, steering wheel, and grille so =
is worth the effort.=20
Someone on the list gave the number for the seals that have worked for me m=
any times.=20
Once you have the lever off it is relatively easy to remove the lid and the=
n the rocker shaft.=20
For an exceptional job it's not that expensive to have the area of the rock=
er shaft where the seal rides built up with "hard chrome" and ground back t=
o size.=20
Good luck....maybe you will be lucky and find that someone has had the leve=
r off previously and tightened the nut a little less enthusiastically that =
the factory guys.=20
Michael S=20
BN1 #174=20

From: Tom Felts=20
Sent: =E2=80=8E16/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 8:22 a.m.=20
To: Michael Salter=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Lever Removal Questions--BJ8=20

More like a refridg full of beers!!:) Do you think that puller can be used =
while the rack is still mounted in the car? I'm not to keen on taking the w=
hole thing out.=20

I may end up draining as much old oil out as I can and refilling with JD co=
rnhead grease. Assume mixing a little won't be a problem?=20

Thanks----appreciate the info.=20
tom=20
---- Michael Salter < michaelsalter@gmail.com > wrote:=20

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20

Tom,=20
I'm not sure if this will be of much help but it may be worth reading=20
through.=20
http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D967=20
I would not think that it is necessary to remove the center or side rod=20
from the lever as they should not prevent you from lifting the lever away=
=20
from the box ONCE you get it released from the tapered spline..=20
I however would recommend that you put a couple of beers in the fridge=20
about now.=20

Michael S=20
BN1 #174=20

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Tom Felts < tomfelts@windstream.net > wro=
te:=20

> I'm starting to "try" to remove the steering lever while the whole mess i=
s=20
> still in the car. I've loosened the big nut that holds the lever on.=20
>=20
> I have pulled as much oil out of the box as I can.=20
>=20
> Before I try getting this thing off, I assume some of the steering arms=
=20
> must be removed (?)=20
>=20
> Does anyone who has done this while on the car have a list of what should=
=20
> be disconnected prior to trying to get the steering lever off?----which=
=20
> seems to be quite fixed at the moment.=20
>=20
> thanks=20
> tom=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; co=
lor: #000000"><div>Get the Pitman arm puller<br></div><div><br></div><hr id=
=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;te=
xt-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" =
data-mce-style=3D"color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; tex=
t-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12p=
t;"><b>From: </b>"Derek Job" &lt;derek.c.job@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"M=
ichael" &lt;michael.salter@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>Healeys@autox.team.n=
et<br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:42:07 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re:=
 [Healeys] Steering Lever Removal Questions--BJ8<br><div><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">This what I used, it is from the UK but no doubt you can get somet=
hing similar in the US. If it doesn't work you could try rotating the box a=
s suggested by Michael, which should give easier access.<div><br></div><div=
><a href=3D"http://www.auravita.com/product/65mm-Reach-x-75mm-Spread-Twin-L=
eg-Reversible-Puller-13906-Draper.JSOB17033.html?RefId=3D225&amp;adid=3DJSO=
B17033&amp;gclid=3DCj0KEQjwkv-rBRDwoMLav-2l9KIBEiQAUTkDU0-EPWV8xUEkXt-NZEjq=
91sZ5M9oDZ_dPH84PmYtURwaAuKb8P8HAQ" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http=
://www.auravita.com/product/65mm-Reach-x-75mm-Spread-Twin-Leg-Reversible-Pu=
ller-13906-Draper.JSOB17033.html?RefId=3D225&amp;adid=3DJSOB17033&amp;gclid=
=3DCj0KEQjwkv-rBRDwoMLav-2l9KIBEiQAUTkDU0-EPWV8xUEkXt-NZEjq91sZ5M9oDZ_dPH84=
PmYtURwaAuKb8P8HAQ">http://www.auravita.com/product/65mm-Reach-x-75mm-Sprea=
d-Twin-Leg-Reversible-Puller-13906-Draper.JSOB17033.html?RefId=3D225&amp;ad=
id=3DJSOB17033&amp;gclid=3DCj0KEQjwkv-rBRDwoMLav-2l9KIBEiQAUTkDU0-EPWV8xUEk=
Xt-NZEjq91sZ5M9oDZ_dPH84PmYtURwaAuKb8P8HAQ</a><br></div></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 1:51 P=
M, Michael <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com=
" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";>micha=
el.salter@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
 data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding=
-left: 1ex;"><div><div><div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:11pt" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt=
;">Hi Tom,<br>I don't want to discourage you from trying but in my experien=
ce the factory used to really tighten the big nut to ensure that the lever =
would not come loose on the rocker shaft.<br>As I mentioned in my post <a h=
ref=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D967"; target=3D"_blank" data-m=
ce-href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D967";>http://www.netbug.ne=
t/blogmichael/?p=3D967</a><br>they are often so tight that the pressure req=
uired to separate them is sufficient to crush the end of the shaft or, if t=
he puller isn't straight, actually bend the threaded section of the shaft.<=
br>I would caution you against trying to wedge something between the body o=
f the steering box and the lever as the box is not very strong and is easil=
y broken.<br>If you can get the 3 mounting bolts out, separate the side and=
 center rod ball joints and loosen the U clamp under the dash it is possibl=
e to rotate the box enough to get the puller described in my blog into posi=
tion. This saves having to remove the turn signal switch, steering wheel, a=
nd grille so is worth the effort.<br>Someone on the list gave the number fo=
r the seals that have worked for me many times.<br>Once you have the lever =
off it is relatively easy to remove the lid and then the rocker shaft.<br>F=
or an exceptional job it's not that expensive to have the area of the rocke=
r shaft where the seal rides built up with "hard chrome" and ground back to=
 size.<br>Good luck....maybe you will be lucky and find that someone has ha=
d the lever off previously and tightened the nut a little less enthusiastic=
ally that the factory guys.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174</div></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><hr><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;font=
-weight:bold" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:=
 11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,=
sans-serif;font-size:11pt" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net"; target=3D"_=
blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net";>Tom Felts</a></span=
><br><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;font-weig=
ht:bold" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt=
; font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-=
serif;font-size:11pt" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; fo=
nt-size: 11pt;">=E2=80=8E16/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 8:22 a.m.</span><br><=
span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;font-weight:bol=
d" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font=
-weight: bold;">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:11pt" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size:=
 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" data-m=
ce-href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>Michael Salter</a></span><br><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;font-weight:bold"=
 data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-w=
eight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif=
;font-size:11pt" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-si=
ze: 11pt;">Re: [Healeys] Steering Lever Removal Questions--BJ8</span><br><d=
iv><br></div></div>More like a refridg full of beers!!:)&nbsp; Do you think=
 that puller can be used while the rack is still mounted in the car?&nbsp; =
I'm not to keen on taking the whole thing out.<br><div><br></div>I may end =
up draining as much old oil out as I can and refilling with JD cornhead gre=
ase.&nbsp; Assume mixing a little won't be a problem?<br><div><br></div>Tha=
nks----appreciate the info.<br>tom<br>---- Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:mic=
haelsalter@gmail.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: <br><div><br><=
/div>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<div><div class=3D"h5"><br>Tom,=
<br>I'm not sure if this will be of much help but it may be worth reading<b=
r>through.<br><a href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D967"; target=
=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D967";>ht=
tp://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D967</a><br>I would not think that it i=
s necessary to remove the center or side rod<br>from the lever as they shou=
ld not prevent you from lifting the lever away<br>from the box ONCE you get=
 it released from the tapered spline..<br>I however would recommend that yo=
u put a couple of beers in the fridge<br>about now.<br><div><br></div>Micha=
el S<br>BN1 #174<br><div><br></div>On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Tom Fe=
lts &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net"; target=3D"_blank" data-m=
ce-href=3D"mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net";>tomfelts@windstream.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br><div><br></div>&gt; I'm starting to "try" to remove the steering =
lever while the whole mess is<br>&gt; still in the car.&nbsp; I've loosened=
 the big nut that holds the lever on.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I have pulled as much=
 oil out of the box as I can.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Before I try getting this thi=
ng off, I assume some of the steering arms<br>&gt; must be removed (?)<br>&=
gt;<br>&gt; Does anyone who has done this while on the car have a list of w=
hat should<br>&gt; be disconnected prior to trying to get the steering leve=
r off?----which<br>&gt; seems to be quite fixed at the moment.<br>&gt;<br>&=
gt; thanks<br>&gt; tom<br>&gt; ____________________________________________=
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