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Hi Guys, while we don't want to go too far into letting the truth ruin a
good story, personally I think Donald Healey didn't scrap much of
anything. There may well have been a company line not to tell everyone
what was built out of what, and even today in small business you don't
throw away anything of value. So who knows what turned into what in the
early years. I have always struggled with the story that the streamliner
was scrapped due to corrosion.
Cheers
Larry Varley
On 3/10/2015 12:33 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote:
>
> Greetings
>
> I would be surprised if the first car was scrapped, more like bits of
> it were used in other experiments.
>
> Both the BN3/1 and BN3/4 started life as very early four-cylinder cars
> before the six-cylinder engines were fitted in â??54 and later. There
> are lots of bits in both cars that are certainly not akin to
> production cars.
>
> The X numbers used by the DHMC referred to experiments and not
> complete cars. My car, the BN3/1 was X207 and according to Geoff Price
> when he was speaking to an earlier owner it originated as a
> pre-production chassis. Whether this is true or not, I have no way of
> telling.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of
> *Curtis Arndt
> *Sent:* Saturday, 3 October 2015 11:08 AM
> *To:* 100healey
> *Cc:* Healey List
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Early BN1 Photo
>
> Larry,
>
> I spoke with John Wheatley about this car very at the Lake Tahoe meet
> back in 2002. This was the prototype and the only body built by
> Tickfords, versus all subsequent cars that were built by Jensen. Thus
> the rarest of the rare car being the first, a one off car built by
> Tickfords, the car that started the legend, and unfortunately
> according to John, scraped many years ago. Very sad indeed that no
> one saw to save this piece of automotive history.
>
> The oldest known surviving 100 is AHX-3 owned by a member of our
> Concours Committee.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curt
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Larry Varley <varley@cosmos.net.au
>
> Its interesting to note that there does not appear to be front shroud
> supports at the front of the chassis rails in the right hand photo.
> The car is purported to be**Chassis number J4001** Is anything known
> of what happened to this car and the other prototypes?? If you look at
> the following page on my website you will also see the very early
> chassis design part way down the page with some explanation of the
> prototype sequence.
> http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/45.html
> Clearly there were prototype chassis designs before production began,
> it would be very interesting to know more history.
> Regards
> Larry Varley
> http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/
>
>
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Hi Guys, while we don't want to go too far into letting the truth
ruin a good story, personally I think Donald Healey didn't scrap
much of anything. There may well have been a company line not to
tell everyone what was built out of what, and even today in small
business you don't throw away anything of value. So who knows what
turned into what in the early years. I have always struggled with
the story that the streamliner was scrapped due to corrosion.<br>
Cheers<br>
Larry Varley<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I would be
surprised if the first car was scrapped, more like bits of
it were used in other experiments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Both the
BN3/1 and BN3/4 started life as very early four-cylinder
cars before the six-cylinder engines were fitted in â??54 and
later. There are lots of bits in both cars that are
certainly not akin to production cars.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">The X
numbers used by the DHMC referred to experiments and not
complete cars. My car, the BN3/1 was X207 and according to
Geoff Price when he was speaking to an earlier owner it
originated as a pre-production chassis. Whether this is true
or not, I have no way of telling.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Best
wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Patrick
Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> Healeys
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Curtis
Arndt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 3 October 2015 11:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 100healey<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healey List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Early BN1 Photo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I spoke
with John Wheatley about this car very at the Lake Tahoe
meet back in 2002. This was the prototype and the only
body built by Tickfords, versus all subsequent cars that
were built by Jensen. Thus the rarest of the rare car
being the first, a one off car built by Tickfords, the
car that started the legend, and unfortunately according
to John, scraped many years ago. Very sad indeed that
no one saw to save this piece of automotive
history.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">The oldest known surviving 100 is
AHX-3 owned by a member of our Concours
Committee.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p class="MsoNormal">Curt<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Larry
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Its
interesting to note that there does not appear to be
front shroud supports at the front of the chassis rails
in the right hand photo. The car is purported to be<b>
</b>Chassis
number J4001<b>Â </b> Is anything known of what happened
to this car and the other prototypes?? If you look at
the following page on my website you will also see the
very early chassis design part way down the page with
some explanation of the prototype sequence.<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/45.html";
target="_blank">http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/45.html</a><br>
Clearly there were prototype chassis designs before
production began, it would be very interesting to know
more history.<br>
Regards<span style="color:#888888"><br>
<span class="hoenzb">Larry Varley</span><br>
<span class="hoenzb"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/";
target="_blank">http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/</a></span><br>
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