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What's the water pipe going back to the firewall for? Is there an expansion
tank there? Is there another connection to the rear of the head we can't see?
Ken Freese
65 BJ8
From: "Peter Dzwig" <pdzwig@summaventures.com>
To: "Derek Job" <derek.c.job@gmail.com>, "healeys" <Healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:27:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Streamliner and Engines
Looking in detail at the pic again I noticed that the engine is "XSP 234-4" so
it is a Experimental Special Production engine built to the "234 type" whatever
that really meant (it is apparently still unclear). But note the engine in the
'56 streamliner was 234-6; the engine in the endurance car was 234-3;
According to Del Border in AHSTC Flash in February 2010 on p16 the full list of
234 numbers is unknown as are the cars for which they were built. The final
number signifies the number of the engine in the build sequence of that
configuration, so this is the fourth engine in the XSP 234 type. But it isn't
either the '56 streamliner's engine, nor the endurance car's engine. It might,
however, seem reasonable to surmise that this is a spare engine that was taken
to the US for the trials and later transplanted into this body for the '57
Sebring.
Note interestingly that Border's engine 815-3 which he suggests was run at
Sebring in '57 or '58 has very different carburation from XSP 234-4 and is
painted green rather than the metallic paint here:
<https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/sn533ny1516>
which is more like the later cars as I recall.
Anyone any thoughts/comments on any of the above?
Peter
On 25/11/2015 19:51, Derek Job wrote:
> Great photos, I love the overhead shot. I think you meant to say note the
> triple
> Webers.
>
> Derek
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig@summaventures.com
>
> I think that you might like to see these found in the Revs archive at
> Stanford..I think that they may have got some of the attributions wrong,
> but..
>
> Streamliner(?) at Sebring in 57 - Car 24
>
> <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/qk940yk6550>
>
> Ditto but number 25 (which is the one which is most likely to be the Record
> Car)
>
> <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/wf471cc7658>
>
> Presumably the same car. Note the triple SUs
>
> <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/sn533ny1516>
>
> The photos are from the Karl Ludvidgsen Collection at Revs
>
> Peter
> --
>
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> Dr Peter Dzwig
>
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ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>What's the water pipe going back to the fir=
ewall for? Is there an expansion tank there? Is there another connection to=
the rear of the head we can't see?</div><div>Ken Freese</div><div>65 BJ8</=
div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-m=
arker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Peter Dzwig" <pdzwig@summaventures.c=
om><br><b>To: </b>"Derek Job" <derek.c.job@gmail.com>, "healeys" &=
lt;Healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, November 25, 2015 =
3:27:22 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Streamliner and Engines<br></di=
v><br><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__">Looking in detail at the pic aga=
in I noticed that the engine is "XSP 234-4" so<br>it is a Experimental Spec=
ial Production engine built to the "234 type" whatever<br>that really meant=
(it is apparently still unclear). But note the engine in the<br>'56 stream=
liner was 234-6; the engine in the endurance car was 234-3;<br><br>Accordin=
g to Del Border in AHSTC Flash in February 2010 on p16 the full list of<br>=
234 numbers is unknown as are the cars for which they were built. The final=
<br>number signifies the number of the engine in the build sequence of that=
<br>configuration, so this is the fourth engine in the XSP 234 type. But it=
isn't<br>either the '56 streamliner's engine, nor the endurance car's engi=
ne. It might,<br>however, seem reasonable to surmise that this is a spare e=
ngine that was taken<br>to the US for the trials and later transplanted int=
o this body for the '57 Sebring.<br><br>Note interestingly that Border's en=
gine 815-3 which he suggests was run at<br>Sebring in '57 or '58 has very d=
ifferent carburation from XSP 234-4 and is<br>painted green rather than the=
metallic paint here:<br><br><https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/sn533=
ny1516><br><br>which is more like the later cars as I recall.<br><br>Any=
one any thoughts/comments on any of the above?<br><br>Peter<br><br>On 25/11=
/2015 19:51, Derek Job wrote:<br>> Great photos, I love the overhead sho=
t. I think you meant to say note the triple<br>> Webers.<br>> <br>>=
; Derek<br>> <br>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Peter Dzwig <p=
dzwig@summaventures.com<br>> <mailto:pdzwig@summaventures.com>>=
wrote:<br>> <br>> I think that you might like to see t=
hese found in the Revs archive at<br>> Stanford..I think t=
hat they may have got some of the attributions wrong, but..<br>> <br>>=
; Streamliner(?) at Sebring in 57 - Car 24<br>> <br>> &=
nbsp; <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/qk940yk6550><br>&g=
t; <br>> Ditto but number 25 (which is the one which is mo=
st likely to be the Record Car)<br>> <br>> <https://=
revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/wf471cc7658><br>> <br>> =
Presumably the same car. Note the triple SUs<br>> <br>>  =
; <https://revslib.stanford.edu/catalog/sn533ny1516><br>> <br>>=
The photos are from the Karl Ludvidgsen Collection at =
Revs<br>> <br>> Peter<br>> --<br>> =
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