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To: Michael <michael.salter@gmail.com>, healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tyres --Rear guard clearance on a BN2
From: Keith Taylor <ktee20@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 08:58:20 +1100
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Thanks everyone for the input I have started to disassemble the  U  bolts &
the relocation looks simple ( thanks Michael) I should end up with a 2295
wheel spacing 5mm over specification
My original spacing ( re measuring accurately ) was 2285   Thankfully I can
put the hatchet & pliers away.

Thanks again  Keith

On 12 December 2015 at 23:28, Michael <michael.salter@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes you have to move both sides but it is quite easy just a case
> of"moving" the holes that the spring datum peg locates into, one on each
> axle bracket and one on each  lower plate.
> M
> ------------------------------
> From: Keith Taylor <ktee20@gmail.com>
> Sent: =E2=80=8E11/=E2=80=8E12/=E2=80=8E2015 11:43 p.m.
> To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Tyres --Rear guard clearance on a BN2
>
> Thanks Michael
> That was a less destructive option
> The wheelbase on both sides is 2290 which is correct but the problem is
> only on the right side
> I assume I will have to move both sides to avoid " crabbing "
>
> On 12 December 2015 at 14:22, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Keith,
>> May be worth looking into relocating the rear axle back about1/2"...it i=
s
>> a lot easier than re-arching and refinishing a fender (guard).
>> Michael S
>> BN1 #174
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Keith Taylor <ktee20@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Andy  The front are OK The BN2 has the higher cutout on the fron=
t
>>> & I think the rear is the same as the BN1. It is the rear right that is=
 the
>>> problem Before I considered modifying the fender (guard) I was hoping t=
o
>>> make sure this problem was not just my car , re working a newly painted
>>> guard is a last resort
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> On 12 December 2015 at 11:58, Andy Thorp <bce257@yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Keith,
>>>>
>>>> Dunlop 48 spokes and XAS from Longstone on a 57 BN4 and the RR tyre
>>>> fouls the rear arch point at the back when crossing curbs. LR has abou=
t
>>>> 15mm. The RR guard has the wheel cutout about 5mm smaller and sits abo=
ut
>>>> 5mm further forward than the left side which means the rear tip is bel=
ow
>>>> the tyre tread on level ground.
>>>>
>>>> I had the arch re-rolled 5mm bigger and hopefully this will give enoug=
h
>>>> clearance.
>>>>
>>>> Andy.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Keith Taylor <ktee20@gmail.com>
>>>> *To:* healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, 11 December 2015 7:12 PM
>>>> *Subject:* [Healeys] Tyres --Rear guard clearance on a BN2
>>>>
>>>> My old 48 spoke rims have run their life , fitted with 165/80R Hancook=
s
>>>> also past their use by date.
>>>>
>>>> Updated to Dayton 60 spoke 4-1/5 rims with Michelin 180/HR XAS as
>>>> recommended by Longstone Tyres UK
>>>>    as closest match for Dunlop RS5.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Hancooks looked a bit lean in the wheel arch while the Michelins
>>>> fill it out nicely.
>>>>
>>>> PROBLEM  :-          The right side tyre now touches the guard bottom
>>>> turn-in & the left side is just clear.
>>>>                                 Both rear  tyres sit just outside the
>>>> guard & I am concerned that wheel travel will hit the guards.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Daytons were purchased from the Healey Factory here in OZ & claime=
d
>>>> to be specifically for a BN1-2.
>>>> To me it looks like the rim should sit  further in ie the offset is to=
o
>>>> far out.
>>>>
>>>> The rim is branded 4.5 Beadlace D2-88.
>>>>
>>>> Any input would be appreciated
>>>>
>>>> Keith Taylor
>>>> Southern Highlands OZ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> *If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem.*
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks everyone=C2=A0for the input I have started to =
disassemble the=C2=A0 U=C2=A0 bolts &amp; the relocation looks simple ( tha=
nks Michael)=C2=A0I should end up with a 2295 wheel spacing 5mm over specif=
ication</div><div>My original spacing ( re measuring accurately ) was 2285=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Thankfully I can put the hatchet &amp; pliers away.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Thanks again=C2=A0 Keith</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extr=
a"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 12 December 2015 at 23:28, Michael <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div><div><div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:11pt">Yes you have to move both sides but it is quite easy just a case =
of&quot;moving&quot; the holes that the spring datum peg locates into, one =
on each axle bracket and one on each=C2=A0 lower plate.<br>M </div></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><hr><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:=
11pt;font-weight:bold">From: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif;font-size:11pt"><a href=3D"mailto:ktee20@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank=
">Keith Taylor</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;=
font-size:11pt;font-weight:bold">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Ca=
libri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">=E2=80=8E11/=E2=80=8E12/=E2=80=8E2015 11:4=
3 p.m.</span><br><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11=
pt;font-weight:bold">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-ser=
if;font-size:11pt"><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk">healeys</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:11pt;font-weight:bold">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family:Ca=
libri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Re: [Healeys] Tyres --Rear guard clearance=
 on a BN2</span><br><br></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=
Thanks Michael</div><div>That was a less destructive option</div><div>The w=
heelbase on both sides is 2290 which is correct but the problem is only on =
the right side</div><div>I assume I will have to move both sides to avoid &=
quot;=C2=A0crabbing &quot;</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On 12 December 2015 at 14:22, Michael Salter <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">micha=
elsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb=
(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-ser=
if;font-size:small">Hi Keith,<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">May be worth look=
ing into relocating the rear axle back about1/2&quot;...it is a lot easier =
than re-arching and refinishing a fender (guard).<br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"=
>Michael S<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic=
 sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">BN1 #174<br></div></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div>On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 =
at 10:18 PM, Keith Taylor <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ktee20@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">ktee20@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;p=
adding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;bo=
rder-left-style:solid"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks Andy=C2=A0 Th=
e front are OK The BN2 has the higher cutout on the front &amp; I think the=
 rear is the same as the BN1.=C2=A0It is the rear right that is the problem=
 Before I considered modifying the fender (guard) I was hoping to make sure=
 this problem was not just my car , re working a newly painted guard is a l=
ast resort</div><span><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>Keith</di=
v></font></span></div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On 12 December 2015 at 11:58, Andy Thorp <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bce257@yahoo.co.nz"; target=3D"_blank">bce257@yahoo.c=
o.nz</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);=
border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div><div style=3D"color:rgb=
(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Gra=
nde,Sans-Serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Hi Keith,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dunlop =
48 spokes and XAS from Longstone on a 57 BN4 and the RR tyre fouls the rear=
 arch point at the back when crossing curbs. LR has about 15mm. The RR guar=
d has the wheel cutout about 5mm smaller and sits about 5mm further forward=
 than the left side which means the rear tip is below the tyre tread on lev=
el ground. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I had the =
arch re-rolled 5mm bigger and hopefully this will give enough clearance.</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Andy.<br></div><div><span></=
span></div><br>  <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Hel=
vetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"> <div style=3D"font-f=
amily:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,Sans-Serif=
;font-size:16px"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1"> <font face=3D"Arial" si=
ze=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Keith Taylor=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ktee20@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">ktee20@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> healeys &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> =
Friday, 11 December 2015 7:12 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Su=
bject:</span></b> [Healeys] Tyres --Rear guard clearance on a BN2<br> </fon=
t> </div> <div><div><div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>My old 48 spoke rim=
s have run their life , fitted with 165/80R Hancooks also=C2=A0past their u=
se by date.</div><div><br></div><div>Updated to Dayton 60 spoke 4-1/5 rims =
with Michelin 180/HR XAS as recommended by Longstone Tyres UK</div><div>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 as closest match for Dunlop RS5.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 =
</div><div>The Hancooks looked a bit lean in the wheel arch while the Miche=
lins fill it out nicely.</div><div><br></div><div>PROBLEM=C2=A0 :-=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The right side tyre now touch=
es the guard bottom turn-in &amp; the left side is just clear.</div><div>=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Both rear =C2=A0tyres sit just ou=
tside the guard &amp; I am concerned that wheel travel will hit the guards.=
</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The Daytons were pu=
rchased from the Healey Factory here in OZ &amp; claimed to be specifically=
 for a BN1-2.</div><div>To me it looks like the rim should sit =C2=A0furthe=
r in ie the offset is too far out.</div><div><br></div><div>The rim is bran=
ded 4.5 Beadlace D2-88.</div><div><br></div><div>Any input would be appreci=
ated</div><div><br></div><div>Keith Taylor</div><div>Southern Highlands OZ<=
/div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></d=
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