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To: 'john spaur' <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net>, 'Michael Oritt' <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] SAE 140 Use In Differential To Reduce Noise?
From: Doug Barker <douglas.barker@videotron.ca>
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 19:33:04 -0500
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Will consider for sure-above the 49th parallel peelings are plentiful!

 

From: john spaur [mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 7:23 PM
To: Michael Oritt; Doug Barker
Cc: Austin Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] SAE 140 Use In Differential To Reduce Noise?

 

A long, long time ago, a friend of mine would use sawdust and banana peels. I 
would not suggest you try this.

 

John

 

On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 2:11 PM, Michael Oritt 
<michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Graham--

 

Yes the bearings are splash-fed.  The weight of the oil will not affect the 
lubrication to the bearings as the lower number is the same.  I doubt using oil 
with a higher upper number will have any beneficial effect.  Better to have the 
diff set up properly as others suggest though if you have been running the set 
for some time then the gears may already be worn in to each other and you may 
not be able to have the R & P set reshimmed, etc.

 

Best--Michael Oritt

 

 

 

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Doug Barker <douglas.barker@videotron.ca> 
wrote:

This goes way back but did anybody respond and if so what was the
conclusion?

-----Original Message-----
From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Graham Wilkie
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 10:43 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] SAE 140 Use In Differential To Reduce Noise?

Hello All,

The differential on my 1966 BJ8 starts to whine once I have driven for
several miles, and everything has warmed up to normal operating temperature.
It only occurs during accelerator pedal movement down (under load). The
whining diminishes during coasting or deceleration.

The differential is filled with Penrite 80W 90 mineral gear oil. (Recently
changed).

I am considering replacing my differential gear oil with Penrite SAE 140
mineral gear oil. (Note no 'W' prefix; it is straight SAE 140). This product
claims it will reduce differential noise in older vehicles. I wonder if it
is suitable for our Healeys?

I seem to recall reading on the List that our rear wheel bearings are splash
lubricated by differential oil, but cannot find any reference to that in my
workshop manual. Is that correct? I'm concerned that if that is the case,
will the SAE 140 be too viscous to splash lubricate the rear wheel bearings
effectively?

Would I be better of using a gear oil additive like Nulon G70 instead?

Any shared thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Regards, Graham Wilkie.
BJ8 Moruya NSW Australia.
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D'>Will consider for sure-above the 49<sup>th</sup> parallel peelings =
are plentiful!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
john spaur [mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, =
December 23, 2015 7:23 PM<br><b>To:</b> Michael Oritt; Doug =
Barker<br><b>Cc:</b> Austin Healey<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] SAE =
140 Use In Differential To Reduce =
Noise?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450916437807_4708"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>A long, long =
time ago, a friend of mine would use sawdust and banana peels. I would =
not suggest you try this.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450916437807_4731"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></span></p></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1450916437807_4732"><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>John<o:p></o:p=
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style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>O=
n Wednesday, December 23, 2015 2:11 PM, Michael Oritt &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</span><span =
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class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#3333FF'>Graham--<o:p=
></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#3333FF'>Yes the =
bearings are splash-fed.&nbsp; The weight of the oil will not affect the =
lubrication to the bearings as the lower number is the same.&nbsp; I =
doubt using oil with a higher upper number will have any beneficial =
effect.&nbsp; Better to have the diff set up properly as others suggest =
though if you have been running the set for some time then the gears may =
already be worn in to each other and you may not be able to have the R =
&amp; P set reshimmed, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#3333FF'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#3333FF'>Best--Michae=
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class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On Wed, Dec =
23, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Doug Barker &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:douglas.barker@videotron.ca"; =
target=3D"_blank">douglas.barker@videotron.ca</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>This goes way =
back but did anybody respond and if so what was =
the<br>conclusion?<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a> [mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]<br>On Behalf Of =
Graham Wilkie<br>Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 10:43 PM<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>Subject: [Healeys] SAE =
140 Use In Differential To Reduce Noise?<br><br>Hello All,<br><br>The =
differential on my 1966 BJ8 starts to whine once I have driven =
for<br>several miles, and everything has warmed up to normal operating =
temperature.<br>It only occurs during accelerator pedal movement down =
(under load). The<br>whining diminishes during coasting or =
deceleration.<br><br>The differential is filled with Penrite 80W 90 =
mineral gear oil. (Recently<br>changed).<br><br>I am considering =
replacing my differential gear oil with Penrite SAE 140<br>mineral gear =
oil. (Note no 'W' prefix; it is straight SAE 140). This =
product<br>claims it will reduce differential noise in older vehicles. I =
wonder if it<br>is suitable for our Healeys?<br><br>I seem to recall =
reading on the List that our rear wheel bearings are =
splash<br>lubricated by differential oil, but cannot find any reference =
to that in my<br>workshop manual. Is that correct? I'm concerned that if =
that is the case,<br>will the SAE 140 be too viscous to splash lubricate =
the rear wheel bearings<br>effectively?<br><br>Would I be better of =
using a gear oil additive like Nulon G70 instead?<br><br>Any shared =
thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.<br><br>Thank =
you.<br><br>Regards, Graham Wilkie.<br>BJ8 Moruya NSW =
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