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To: Chris Dimmock <austin.healey@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Valvoline VR-1 20W-50 ...
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 14:02:01 -0400
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Since this became a known issue I have been adding a bottle of ZDDPlus or
other similar additives to the oil in all of my cars.  I usually use Royal
Purple street oil in the Healey and always use Royal Purple XPR 41 or 51,
depending on the season, in my race engines.  No cam failures....

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Chris Dimmock <austin.healey@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm with Mike on this one.
> It's about the flat tappet cam lubrication issues.
> What's the most worn out thing in any Healey engine? Cam & camfollowers.
> Always. Always has been.
> Me? Penrite HPR40 or HPR50.
> Look at the ZDDP numbers.
> https://www.penriteoil.com.au/products.php?id_categ=1&id_products=5
> No affiliation, no financial interest.
> No oil wars, just look at the ZDDP numbers.
> And the Denis Welch gun drilled camshafts with oil holes in each lobe also
> help immensely.
> But if you have a factory solid camshaft, then you need to look at ZDDP
> numbers first. Works for me.
> "DOUBLE LAYER of engine wear protection with FULL ZINC (approx. 1500 ppm)"
> Your cam life may vary...
> Best
> Chris
> www.myaustinhealey.com
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 9 May 2016, at 10:11 PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Simon,
> The problem is the ZDDP content which is either missing or too low to
> protect solid lifters.
> Read this..http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=49
>
> Michael S
> On May 9, 2016 12:21 AM, "Simon Lachlan" <simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> I hate to start another oil war, but:
>> Recalling that one of the Healeys said that the quality of the oil was
>> less
>> important than the frequency of the oil changes - ie change yr oil often
>> - I
>> get my 20 -50 from a farm depot. In bulk. Costs very little ie the drum
>> doesn't have a picture of a Classic Car on it. It's good stuff....most
>> decent size tractors are worth more than our cars and they wouldn't put
>> any
>> old stuff in their engines! I've been running on Mole Valley Farmers'
>> 20-50
>> for the last +/-15 yrs. Oil and filter at least every 3,000 miles.
>> Simon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
>> Spidell
>> Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 18:02
>> To: Healeys
>> Subject: [Healeys] Valvoline VR-1 20W-50 ...
>>
>> ... appears to be no longer available in California.  Amazon has it, but
>> won't ship to either my address or my parents', and my favorite local
>> parts
>> house said they 'yanked it off the shelves' at all their warehouses.
>>
>> Best (only?) alternative is Joe Gibbs Racing 15W-50, at $10+/qt. Ouch.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Since=
 this became a known issue I have been adding a bottle of ZDDPlus or other =
similar additives to the oil in all of my cars.=C2=A0 I usually use Royal P=
urple street oil in the Healey and always use Royal Purple XPR 41 or 51, de=
pending on the season, in my race engines.=C2=A0 No cam failures....</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt =C2=A0</div></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 9,=
 2016 at 10:30 AM, Chris Dimmock <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:au=
stin.healey@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">austin.healey@gmail.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div><span>=
</span></div><div><div>I&#39;m with Mike on this one.=C2=A0</div><div>It&#3=
9;s about the flat tappet cam lubrication issues.</div><div>What&#39;s the =
most worn out thing in any Healey engine? Cam &amp; camfollowers.=C2=A0</di=
v><div>Always. Always has been.=C2=A0</div><div>Me? Penrite HPR40 or HPR50.=
 =C2=A0</div><div>Look at the ZDDP numbers.=C2=A0</div><div><a href=3D"http=
s://www.penriteoil.com.au/products.php?id_categ=3D1&amp;id_products=3D5" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">https://www.penriteoil.com.au/products.php?id_categ=3D1&amp=
;id_products=3D5</a></div><div>No affiliation, no financial interest.=C2=A0=
</div><div>No oil wars, just look at the ZDDP numbers.=C2=A0</div><div>And =
the Denis Welch gun drilled camshafts with oil holes in each lobe also help=
 immensely.=C2=A0</div><div>But if you have a factory solid camshaft, then =
you need to look at ZDDP numbers first. Works for me.=C2=A0<br><div>&quot;<=
span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span style=3D"font-wei=
ght:700;text-align:justify">DOUBLE LAYER</span><span style=3D"text-align:ju=
stify">=C2=A0of engine wear protection with=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font=
-weight:700;text-align:justify">FULL ZINC</span><span style=3D"text-align:j=
ustify">=C2=A0(approx. 1500 ppm)&quot;</span></span></div><div><div style=
=3D"text-align:justify">Your cam life may vary...</div><div style=3D"text-a=
lign:justify">Best</div><div style=3D"text-align:justify">Chris</div><div s=
tyle=3D"text-align:justify"><a href=3D"http://www.myaustinhealey.com"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">www.myaustinhealey.com</a>=C2=A0</div><div><br><br><div>Sent f=
rom my iPhone</div></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On 9 May 2016, at =
10:11 PM, Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><div><p dir=3D"ltr">Hi Simon, <br>
The problem is the ZDDP content which is either missing or too low to prote=
ct solid lifters.<br>
Read this..<a href=3D"http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49"; target=3D"=
_blank">http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/?p=3D49</a></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Michael S</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On May 9, 2016 12:21 AM, &quot;Simon Lachlan&quo=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk"; target=3D"_blank">si=
mon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">I hate to start another oil war, but:<br>
Recalling that one of the Healeys said that the quality of the oil was less=
<br>
important than the frequency of the oil changes - ie change yr oil often - =
I<br>
get my 20 -50 from a farm depot. In bulk. Costs very little ie the drum<br>
doesn&#39;t have a picture of a Classic Car on it. It&#39;s good stuff....m=
ost<br>
decent size tractors are worth more than our cars and they wouldn&#39;t put=
 any<br>
old stuff in their engines! I&#39;ve been running on Mole Valley Farmers&#3=
9; 20-50<br>
for the last +/-15 yrs. Oil and filter at least every 3,000 miles.<br>
Simon<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Bob<br>
Spidell<br>
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2016 18:02<br>
To: Healeys<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Valvoline VR-1 20W-50 ...<br>
<br>
... appears to be no longer available in California.=C2=A0 Amazon has it, b=
ut<br>
won&#39;t ship to either my address or my parents&#39;, and my favorite loc=
al parts<br>
house said they &#39;yanked it off the shelves&#39; at all their warehouses=
.<br>
<br>
Best (only?) alternative is Joe Gibbs Racing 15W-50, at $10+/qt. Ouch.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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