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Re: [Healeys] Barrett Jackson Las Vegas Auction Oct 13-15

To: BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Barrett Jackson Las Vegas Auction Oct 13-15
From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 12:43:15 -0700
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My BN4 is really a BT7. I have the BMHT certificate for the engine #. 1960
BT7. It has been registered as a BN4 for the 42 years I have owned it. I
have tried to correct the registration at my local Oregon DMV, but I will
have to wait until I retire to have the time to sort out the issue. Went I
brought the BMHT certificate in with my name on it to show it was my car
the guy behind the counter said he needed proof the car arrived in
America.... The certificate showed the date it left England, but no proof
as to when it arrived.....I told him the car was here ans that is why I
wanted to correct the registration. He said it could come anytime and I
needed proof from California that it arrive in 1960. As I said, after I
retire

Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes

Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 8:40 AM, BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com> wrote:

> It's not a question of every original number being intact, but of the
> integrity of the car itself.  If it isn't important to you that a car has=
 a
> different VIN number than when it left the factory, and maybe the body
> plate from another car entirely, then go ahead and buy it.  But don't be
> surprised if when the time comes to sell it you have some potential buyer=
s
> who are turned off when they find out the numbers and features of the car
> don't add up.  Was it stolen at some point?  Why did someone replace the
> plates?  Is your car really a "Longbridge", or did someone replace the
> plates before you bought it and got the certificate for the current numbe=
r
> that says it was?  Yours may be legitimate, but I can tell you that a lot
> of BJ8 owners have been unpleasantly disappointed.
>
>
>
> For me personally, as the keeper of the BJ8 Registry and someone who is
> trying to determine the fate (existing or not) of all of the cars built,
> it's important to be able to identify each one unambiguously.   My BJ8 ha=
s
> an alternator, non-original leather interior, dual fuel pumps, a modern
> radio, 3-point seatbelts, a Corvette Yellow over Black paint job, modern
> re-cored radiator, Mallory Dual-Point distributor, coolant overflow syste=
m,
> Lempert differential, etc., etc. so it isn't strictly as it left the
> factory.  But it is a reliable long-distance driver that has carried me f=
or
> 117K miles so far, including two round trips across the country, and it
> does have the same identity that it left the factory with (as well as all
> of the original serialized components).   That's important to me, and a l=
ot
> of other people who are trying to get their numbers corrected after they
> found out the car they thought they had is something else.  Better to kno=
w
> up front what you're getting than to be disappointed later.
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
> HBJ8L/36666
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
> Havelock, NC
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ruvino@ripnet.com [mailto:ruvino@ripnet.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:57 PM
> *To:* BJ8Healeys; 'John Davidson'; vintage_roadster_restoration@
> hotmail.com; Healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Barrett Jackson Las Vegas Auction Oct 13-15
>
>
>
> I wonder why anyone would want a Healey with every original number intact
> except a collector who probably doesn=E2=80=99t intend to drive the car.
>
> I have a BN-4 Longbridge with concours interior, a BJ-8 modified engine a
> Lempert rear end, blisten shooks, electronic ignition etc etc which makes
> for a great driver. Anyone want the original shocks with the proper numbe=
r
> for the original?
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">My BN4 is really a BT7. I have the BMHT certificate for th=
e engine #. 1960 BT7. It has been registered as a BN4 for the 42 years I ha=
ve owned it. I have tried to correct the registration at my local Oregon DM=
V, but I will have to wait until I retire to have the time to sort out the =
issue. Went I brought the BMHT certificate in with my name on it to show it=
 was my car the guy behind the counter said he needed proof the car arrived=
 in America.... The certificate showed the date it left England, but no pro=
of as to when it arrived.....I told him the car was here ans that is why I =
wanted to correct the registration. He said it could come anytime and I nee=
ded proof from California that it arrive in 1960. As I said, after I retire=
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail=
_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<div>Portland,OR<=
/div><div><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0______=
_</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif"><span sty=
le=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (___=
___ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)</span><br style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times N=
ew Roman&#39;,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,s=
erif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span><=
/div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled wor=
ds</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 8:40 AM, BJ8Healeys <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com"; target=3D"_blank">=
sbyers@ec.rr.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;col=
or:#002060">It&#39;s not a question of every original number being intact, =
but of the integrity of the car itself.=C2=A0 If it isn&#39;t important to =
you that a car has a different VIN number than when it left the factory, an=
d maybe the body plate from another car entirely, then go ahead and buy it.=
=C2=A0 But don&#39;t be surprised if when the time comes to sell it you hav=
e some potential buyers who are turned off when they find out the numbers a=
nd features of the car don&#39;t add up.=C2=A0 Was it stolen at some point?=
=C2=A0 Why did someone replace the plates?=C2=A0 Is your car really a &quot=
;Longbridge&quot;, or did someone replace the plates before you bought it a=
nd got the certificate for the current number that says it was?=C2=A0 Yours=
 may be legitimate, but I can tell you that a lot of BJ8 owners have been u=
npleasantly disappointed.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#=
002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">F=
or me personally, as the keeper of the BJ8 Registry and someone who is tryi=
ng to determine the fate (existing or not) of all of the cars built, it&#39=
;s important to be able to identify each one unambiguously.=C2=A0 =C2=A0My =
BJ8 has an alternator, non-original leather interior, dual fuel pumps, a mo=
dern radio, 3-point seatbelts, a Corvette Yellow over Black paint job, mode=
rn re-cored radiator, Mallory Dual-Point distributor, coolant overflow syst=
em, Lempert differential, etc., etc. so it isn&#39;t strictly as it left th=
e factory.=C2=A0 But it is a reliable long-distance driver that has carried=
 me for 117K miles so far, including two round trips across the country, an=
d it does have the same identity that it left the factory with (as well as =
all of the original serialized components).=C2=A0 =C2=A0That&#39;s importan=
t to me, and a lot of other people who are trying to get their numbers corr=
ected after they found out the car they thought they had is something else.=
=C2=A0 Better to know up front what you&#39;re getting than to be disappoin=
ted later.<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color=
:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">Steve B=
yers</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&=
quot;;color:#002060">HBJ8L/36666</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u=
></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">BJ8 Registry</span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#00206=
0">AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;color:#002060">Havelock, NC=C2=A0 </span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;;color:#002060"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&q=
uot;;color:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;;=
color:#002060"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></span><div><div style=3D"bor=
der:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> <a href=3D"mailt=
o:ruvino@ripnet.com" target=3D"_blank">ruvino@ripnet.com</a> [mailto:<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:ruvino@ripnet.com"; target=3D"_blank">ruvino@ripnet.com</a>] <br=
><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 08, 2016 3:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> BJ8Healeys=
; &#39;John Davidson&#39;; <a href=3D"mailto:vintage_roadster_restoration@h=
otmail.com" target=3D"_blank">vintage_roadster_restoration@<wbr>hotmail.com=
</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">Healeys@a=
utox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Barrett Jackson Las Vega=
s Auction Oct 13-15<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I=
 wonder why anyone would want a Healey with every original number intact ex=
cept a collector who probably doesn=E2=80=99t intend to drive the car.<u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I have a BN-4=
 Longbridge with concours interior, a BJ-8 modified engine a Lempert rear e=
nd, blisten shooks, electronic ignition etc etc which makes for a great dri=
ver. Anyone want the original shocks with the proper number for the origina=
l?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif=
&quot;;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div>=
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