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Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonné front badge

To: "'BJ8Healeys'" <sbyers@ec.rr.com>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonné front badge
From: "Mark Donaldson" <ardmorebusiness@xtra.co.nz>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 14:11:33 +1200
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As a proof-reader I have always obeyed the rule that, where a car or truck
or motorcycle produced as a joint venture by two organisations, the name is
hyphenated to indicate that fact.  The only Austin Healey (without a hyphen)
that I know of used to play rugby football for England.

 

As an aside, I was told many years ago - and I don't recall by whom - that
the dropping of the hyphen may have been an administrative goof from the BMC
Purchasing Office on a long production run, too costly to re-tool with the
hyphen.  That may be an urban myth, but it does make for interesting
speculation over a few beers.

 

Mark Donaldson

Ardmore, NZ

 

  _____  

From: BJ8Healeys [mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2016 5:55 a.m.
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

 

Patrick, I have an original Mk II badge (from BJ7 20111, BMC assembly date
26 June - 5 July 1962) that has the hyphen (photo attached).  I suppose it's
possible the badge was intended for a BT7 Mk II but got installed on a BJ7
instead; but at least this one data point would suggest that one can't say
for certain that the loss of the hyphen occurred with BJ7 production. 

 

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick &
Caroline Quinn
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:58 PM
To: 'Bob Haskell'; 'Bob Spidell'; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge

 

G'day

 

The addition of a hyphen between Austin and Healey is a question that still
hasn't been suitably answered.

 

Attached is a short article and pics I wrote for the Oct-Dec 2015 issue of
the Australian Austin-Healey that might be of interest. I may be mistaken,
but on looking at original examples the BT7 Mk2 originally had a hyphen, but
with the introduction of the BJ7 it was deleted.

 

Badges available today do not have the hyphen.

 

Hoo Roo

 

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

 


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:
11.5pt;color:navy'>As a proof-reader I have always obeyed the rule that, =
where a
car or truck or motorcycle produced as a joint venture by two =
organisations, the
name is hyphenated to indicate that fact.&nbsp; The only Austin Healey =
(without
a hyphen) that I know of used to play rugby football for =
<st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p></span></=
font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:
11.5pt;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:
11.5pt;color:navy'>As an aside, I was told many years ago - and I don't =
recall by
whom - that the dropping of the hyphen may have been an administrative =
goof from
the BMC Purchasing Office on a long production run, too costly to =
re-tool with
the hyphen.&nbsp; That may be an urban myth, but it does make for =
interesting
speculation over a few beers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:
11.5pt;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:
11.5pt;color:navy'>Mark Donaldson<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><font =
size=3D3
  color=3Dnavy face=3DCalibri><span =
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st1:City><font
size=3D3 color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:navy'>, =
NZ<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</spa=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
BJ8Healeys [mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 13 =
September 2016
5:55 a.m.<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Healeys] =
3000 Mk III
cloisonne front badge</span></font><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Patrick, I have an original Mk II badge (from =
BJ7
20111, BMC assembly date 26 June - 5 July 1962) that has the hyphen =
(photo
attached).&nbsp; I suppose it's possible the badge was intended for a =
BT7 Mk II
but got installed on a BJ7 instead; but at least this one data point =
would
suggest that one can't say for certain that the loss of the hyphen =
occurred
with BJ7 production. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Steve Byers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>BJ8 Registry<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>AHCA Delegate at =
Large<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City =
w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2
  face=3DConsolas><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Havelock</span></font></st1:City><span
 lang=3DEN-US>, <st1:State =
w:st=3D"on">NC</st1:State></span></st1:place><span
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Patrick
&amp; Caroline Quinn<br>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:58 PM<br>
To: 'Bob Haskell'; 'Bob Spidell'; healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front =
badge<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>G'day<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>The addition of a hyphen between Austin and =
Healey is
a question that still hasn't been suitably =
answered.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Attached is a short article and pics I wrote =
for the
Oct-Dec 2015 issue of the Australian Austin-Healey that might be of =
interest. I
may be mistaken, but on looking at original examples the BT7 Mk2 =
originally had
a hyphen, but with the introduction of the BJ7 it was =
deleted.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Badges available today do not have the =
hyphen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Hoo Roo<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Blue Mountains, <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
 =
w:st=3D"on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region><o:p></o:p></span><=
/font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DConsolas><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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