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Re: [Healeys] car dies at idle

To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] car dies at idle
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 18:50:11 +0000 (UTC)
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Ah ... that would explain the 'loading up.' Essentially, the engine is 
flooding. But, I'd expect to see some black smoke out the tailpipe when you 
blipped the throttles, and I haven't noticed any (but I'll be watching for it 
now). 

Bob 

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Bob's advice includes some excellent tips but one problem that I have 
encountered numerous times that causes the idle speed of a car with SU carbs to 
decrease until the engine stops is leakage of the float chamber needle valves. 
Oddly these valves will frequently only leak when the engine is actually 
running as there is no overflow from the float chambers when the ignition is 
left on with the engine not running. 
I have discovered that if you quickly remove the carb dampers and needles as 
soon as the engine stops fuel will be found to be leaking out of the main jet. 
I suspect that engine vibration causes the needle valves to leak sometimes. 
In the past I used to solve the problem by installing the type of needle valve 
with the synthetic rubber tips but those are hard to find these days. 

Michael S 
BN1 #174 




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00"><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Ah ... that would explain the 'loading=
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small;">Bob's advice includes some excellent tips but one problem that I ha=
ve encountered numerous times that causes the idle speed of a car with SU c=
arbs to decrease until the engine stops is leakage of the float chamber nee=
dle valves.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comi=
c sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic =
sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">Oddly these valves will frequently o=
nly leak when the engine is actually running as there is no overflow from t=
he float chambers when the ignition is left on with the engine not running.=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,s=
ans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,san=
s-serif; font-size: small;">I have discovered that if you quickly remove th=
e carb dampers and needles as soon as the engine stops fuel will be found t=
o be leaking out of the main jet. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small" data-mce-style=
=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; font-size: small;">I suspect tha=
t engine vibration causes the needle valves to leak sometimes. <br></div><d=
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nt-size:small" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif; fon=
t-size: small;">In the past I used to solve the problem by installing the t=
ype of needle valve with the synthetic rubber tips but those are hard to fi=
nd these days.<br><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
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