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Re: [Healeys] Reverse Gear

To: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Reverse Gear
From: "Ed Orr" <eorr@cogeco.ca>
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 15:59:17 -0500
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Well after much head scratching I loosened the right side shifter ball =
retaining bolt a couple of turns , yes it was as simple as that . I =
suspect the non threaded bit on the end is a little too long .
Thanks to all who responded .

Ed Orr=20

From: Michael Salter=20
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:44 AM
To: Ed Orr=20
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Reverse Gear

Hi Ed,

Fortunately it sounds as though you don't have the interior in yet so =
the problem should be easily corrected.

I encountered a similar issue during a BJ7 box rebuild and it turned out =
to be caused by an incorrect reverse gear detent spring.=20

I had replaced the reverse shifter rod because serious wear was evident =
between the 2 detents in the rod but didn't realize that someone had =
replaced the the original detent springs for a much heavier which was =
coil binding with the replaced rod.

Only figured it out when I discovered that it was easy to engage reverse =
with the top cover off the box.

BIG CAUTION..  If you are playing with the gear engagement with the top =
off the box be VERY CAREFUL. it is really easy to "over travel" the 3/4 =
or 1/2 sliding hubs which will allow the synchronizer balls to pop out =
too far.

Don't ask me how I know!!!


Michael S

BN1 #174 =20


On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Ed Orr <eorr@cogeco.ca> wrote:

  My =E2=80=9966 BJ8 restoration is nearing completion and is due to =
visit a paint buffing shop on Monday before I install all the exterior =
bits . WE got the engine started last week and all is well with that .

  Yesterday I checked out the transmission , all forward gears are fine =
but I cannot get it into reverse , The gearshift lever moves properly to =
the left against the spring the same 10  degrees ( checked with a dial =
angle finder ) as my other BJ8  but cannot engage the gear . The clutch =
travel seems to be OK no sign of grinding engaging first gear , the =
other straight cut gear .

  The transmission was rebuilt by Rich Chrysler=E2=80=99s old BMC =
mechanic about 4 years ago but only recently installed .=20

  Anybody had this problem .



  Ed Orr

  =E2=80=9965 BJ8

  =E2=80=9966 BJ8 project


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<DIV>Well after much head scratching I loosened the right side shifter =
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retaining bolt a couple of turns , yes it was as simple as that . I =
suspect the=20
non threaded bit on the end is a little too long .</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks to all who responded .</DIV>
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<DIV>Ed Orr </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 08, 2016 11:44 AM</DIV>
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Ed,<BR></DIV>
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ms,sans-serif">Fortunately it=20
sounds as though you don't have the interior in yet so the problem =
should be=20
easily corrected.<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">I =
encountered a=20
similar issue during a BJ7 box rebuild and it turned out to be caused by =
an=20
incorrect reverse gear detent spring. <BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">I had =
replaced=20
the reverse shifter rod because serious wear was evident between the 2 =
detents=20
in the rod but didn't realize that someone had replaced the the original =
detent=20
springs for a much heavier which was coil binding with the replaced=20
rod.<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">Only =
figured it=20
out when I discovered that it was easy to engage reverse with the top =
cover off=20
the box.<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">BIG=20
CAUTION..&nbsp; If you are playing with the gear engagement with the top =
off the=20
box be VERY CAREFUL. it is really easy to "over travel" the 3/4 or 1/2 =
sliding=20
hubs which will allow the synchronizer balls to pop out too =
far.<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">Don't =
ask me how=20
I know!!!<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans =
ms,sans-serif">Michael=20
S<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_default=20
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#174&nbsp;=20
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<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Ed Orr <SPAN=20
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  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">My =E2=80=9966 BJ8 restoration is nearing =
completion and is=20
  due to visit a paint buffing shop on Monday before I install all the =
exterior=20
  bits . WE got the engine started last week and all is well with that=20
  .</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Yesterday I checked out the transmission , =
all forward=20
  gears are fine but I cannot get it into reverse , The gearshift lever =
moves=20
  properly to the left against the spring the same 10<SPAN>&nbsp; =
</SPAN>degrees=20
  ( checked with a dial angle finder ) as my other BJ8 =
<SPAN>&nbsp;</SPAN>but=20
  cannot engage the gear . The clutch travel seems to be OK no sign of =
grinding=20
  engaging first gear , the other straight cut gear .</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The transmission was rebuilt by Rich =
Chrysler=E2=80=99s old=20
  BMC mechanic about 4 years ago but only recently installed . =
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