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Re: [Healeys] Fuel gauge damper's super capacitor

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel gauge damper's super capacitor
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:20:09 +0100
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I would not be to worried about that.  For a spark you would need a 
relatively high voltage. That would be more likely without the 
capacitor. A capacitor is often used to prevent sparking (e.g in the 
distributor or petrol pump). If there is a spark it will be inside the 
sender unit which will eliminate problems and the mixture inside the 
tank will probably be to saturated to ignite anyway.

Kees Oudesluijs



Op 15-11-2018 om 12:54 schreef John Harper:
> Simon
>
> Don't do it. Petrol will ignite if sufficient energy is applied. A 
> capacitor could provide such energy.
>
> Best regards
>
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 10:15, <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com 
>
>     Hi,
>
>     Questions for the tech type super-gurus.
>
>     See the attached article, something I picked up on the internet
>     &/or from this list.
>
>     Iâ??ve finally got round to doing it and have bought a pair of
>     super-capacitors (SC), below:
>
>     
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Pcs-4-0F-5-5-V-Super-Capacitor-H-Type-Button-Smart-Capacitance-Universal/272412952404?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
>
>     The article infers to me, at least, that the + terminal of the SC
>     is wired directly to the same terminal connection on the gauge as
>     the wire from the tank sender unit. The â?? terminal is earthed. How
>     does that system work? Wonâ??t the tankâ??s fluctuating signal, for
>     want of a better word, simply bypass the SC and carry on
>     flickering the needle??
>
>     And, assuming I ever get the wiring sorted out, will the SC get
>     hot? Mine has a metal case and Iâ??ve had to thoroughly insulate it.
>     I have visions of the fuel gauge working nicely until the
>     insulation catches fire���
>
>     Simon
>
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    <p>I would not be to worried about that.  For a spark you would need
      a relatively high voltage. That would be more likely without the
      capacitor. A capacitor is often used to prevent sparking (e.g in
      the distributor or petrol pump). If there is a spark it will be
      inside the sender unit which will eliminate problems and the
      mixture inside the tank will probably be to saturated to ignite
      anyway.</p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 15-11-2018 om 12:54 schreef John
      Harper:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Simon
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        <div>Don't do it. Petrol will ignite if sufficient energy is
          applied. A capacitor could provide such energy.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Best regards</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr">On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 10:15, &lt;<a
            href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";
            target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Hi, </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Questions for the tech type
                super-gurus.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">See the attached article, something I
                picked up on the internet &amp;/or from this list.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Iâ??ve finally got round to doing it
                and have bought a pair of super-capacitors (SC), below:</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><a
href="https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Pcs-4-0F-5-5-V-Super-Capacitor-H-Type-Button-Smart-Capacitance-Universal/272412952404?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&amp;_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649";
                  target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Pcs-4-0F-5-5-V-Super-Capacitor-H-Type-Button-Smart-Capacitance-Universal/272412952404?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&amp;_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">The article infers to me, at least,
                that the + terminal of the SC is wired directly to the
                same terminal connection on the gauge as the wire from
                the tank sender unit. The â?? terminal is earthed. How
                does that system work? Wonâ??t the tankâ??s fluctuating
                signal, for want of a better word, simply bypass the SC
                and carry on flickering the needle??</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">And, assuming I ever get the wiring
                sorted out, will the SC get hot? Mine has a metal case
                and Iâ??ve had to thoroughly insulate it. I have visions
                of the fuel gauge working nicely until the insulation
                catches fire���</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Simon</p>
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