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Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice

To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice
From: Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 17:52:06 -0500
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Listers,

I spoke with and ordered LED type H4 replacement headlight bulbs from Super
Bright today.

I had a discussion with their tech guys and learned that the LED
replacements for my BJ8 bulbs draw 1.5 amps (each) of power vs 5.5 - 7 amps
of power for each of the incandescent type bulb (low and high beams).  The
bulb I ordered is the H4-HLV4 bulb (they fit my semi sealed H4 light) and
do not require the additional ballasts that the Moss and others need.
Everything is built into the base of the bulb and nothing more is needed.
It is truly a plug and go bulb that should fit inside my bucket. The wiring
harness does not need to be upgraded nor do relays need to be added, the
power draw is so much lower.  All of this said by the tech guy who had
installed H4 lights in his 68 MGB, with the original wiring harness,
without altering the wiring and he has not had problems.  His comment is
that the LED bulbs draw a great deal less power that the H4 bulb and are
brighter than the Moss units.

The price for my order (Presidents Day Special, 15% off) is $71.85
including taxes and shipping.  No, I have absolutely no financial interest
in the company but I have done business with them in the past and have been
very pleased.

When I receive the bulbs I will let everyone know how it turns out.

Fred
66BJ8

On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 5:20 PM <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com> wrote:

> If you=E2=80=99ve already, say, put in light units that will accept H4 bu=
lbs then
> you only need to replace the bulbs. These LED things, so far as I can see=
,
> mount into the unit the same as an H4. BUT, their wiring goes off via
> clever electrical gizmos (relays?) out of which emerges a socket into whi=
ch
> goes your original H4 connection.
>
> I put in H4 halogens, wired through relays fired up by the car=E2=80=99s =
original
> front lights=E2=80=99 wiring=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.if you see what I mean. Th=
is makes the lights very
> much lighter than they were without going for that stark, almost overly
> white, bright light.
>
> I do think that I may put LEDs into my Oscar spot lights. They=E2=80=99re=
 pretty
> big and pretty bright, but the arrows on the ammeter and battery conditio=
n
> gauges jump when they come on.
>
> Good luck with the project anyhow,
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *
> warthodson@aol.com
> *Sent:* 19 February 2019 16:26
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice
>
>
>
>
>
> There seems to be a big difference between the two options (Litezupp &
> Moss) listed below.
>
> I am not familiar enough with each to understand the pros & cons of each.
> Obviously, the Litzupp is a simple bulb replacement, While the Moss produ=
ct
> requites some wiring adaptions.
>
>
>
> The Litzupp appear to be screw in bases, not the type of base used in
> non-sealed beam headlights. Do they offer just the replacement bulb that
> would fit into an existing vintage non-sealed beam head lamp?
>
>
>
> Gary Hodson
>
>
>
> Litezupp Ind. LLC. Www.litezupp.com
>
> Ira Erbs
> Portland, OR
> typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
>
>
>
>
>
> Op 19-2-2019 om 05:21 schreef Bob Spidell:
>
> Either: https://mossmotors.com/led-conversion-kits-for-7-h4-headlamps
>
> (see option dropdown)
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Listers,<div><br></div><div>I spoke with and ordered LED t=
ype H4 replacement headlight bulbs from Super Bright today.=C2=A0=C2=A0</di=
v><div><br></div><div>I had a discussion with their tech guys and learned t=
hat the LED replacements for my BJ8 bulbs draw 1.5 amps (each) of power vs =
5.5 - 7 amps of power for each of the incandescent type bulb (low and high =
beams).=C2=A0 The bulb I ordered is the H4-HLV4 bulb (they fit my semi seal=
ed H4 light) and do not require the additional ballasts that the Moss and o=
thers need.=C2=A0 Everything is built into the base of the bulb and nothing=
 more is needed.=C2=A0 It is truly a plug and go bulb that should fit insid=
e my bucket. The wiring harness does not need to be upgraded nor do relays =
need to be added, the power draw is so much lower.=C2=A0 All of this said b=
y the tech guy who had installed H4 lights in his 68 MGB, with the original=
 wiring harness, without altering the wiring and he has not had problems.=
=C2=A0 His comment is that the LED bulbs draw a great deal less power that =
the H4 bulb and are brighter than the Moss units.</div><div><br></div><div>=
The price for my order (Presidents Day Special, 15% off) is $71.85 includin=
g taxes and shipping.=C2=A0 No, I have absolutely no financial interest in =
the company but I have done business with them in the past and have been ve=
ry pleased.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>When I receive the bulbs I will =
let everyone know how it turns out.</div><div><br></div><div>Fred</div><div=
>66BJ8<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 5:20 PM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon=
.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.pl=
us.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left=
:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-GB"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-8095414080100282835gmail-m=
_-6728303565194396048WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>If you=E2=
=80=99ve already, say, put in light units that will accept H4 bulbs then yo=
u only need to replace the bulbs. These LED things, so far as I can see, mo=
unt into the unit the same as an H4. BUT, their wiring goes off via=C2=A0 c=
lever electrical gizmos (relays?) out of which emerges a socket into which =
goes your original H4 connection.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span>I put in H4 halogens, wired through relays fired up by the car=
=E2=80=99s original front lights=E2=80=99 wiring=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.if you s=
ee what I mean. This makes the lights very much lighter than they were with=
out going for that stark, almost overly white, bright light.<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I do think that I may put LEDs into =
my Oscar spot lights. They=E2=80=99re pretty big and pretty bright, but the=
 arrows on the ammeter and battery condition gauges jump when they come on.=
<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Good luck with the pr=
oject anyhow,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.n=
et" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf O=
f </b><a href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">warthodson@ao=
l.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> 19 February 2019 16:26<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"m=
ailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><=
br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] LED Headlight Conversion advice<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black=
"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">There seems to be=
 a big difference between the two options (Litezupp &amp; Moss) listed belo=
w.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">I am not familiar=
 enough with each to understand the pros &amp; cons of each. Obviously, the=
 Litzupp is a simple bulb replacement, While the Moss product requites some=
 wiring adaptions.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">The Litzupp appear =
to be screw in bases, not the type of base used in non-sealed beam headligh=
ts. Do they offer just the replacement bulb that would fit into an existing=
 vintage non-sealed beam head lamp?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-ser=
if;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:blac=
k">Gary Hodson<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,=
sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div id=3D"gmail-m_-=
8095414080100282835gmail-m_-6728303565194396048yiv1889193224"><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"color:black=
">Litezupp Ind. LLC. <a href=3D"http://Www.litezupp.com"; target=3D"_blank">=
Www.litezupp.com</a>=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:=
Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bl=
ack">Ira Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br>typos and artifacts are the fault of my ph=
one<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></p><div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-8095414080100282835gmail-m_-67283=
03565194396048yiv1889193224yqt77979"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:n=
one;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0=
cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black=
">Op 19-2-2019 om 05:21 schreef Bob Spidell:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>=
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bl=
ack">Either: <a href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/led-conversion-kits-for-7-h4=
-headlamps" target=3D"_blank">https://mossmotors.com/led-conversion-kits-fo=
r-7-h4-headlamps</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"=
>(see option dropdown)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:blac=
k"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></di=
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