Re: [Healeys] 100M dates

[Randall Hicks via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>]

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Not when you consider the stiffer suspension/better handling & 25% more hors=
epower. Significantly better driving car than std. BN2.

But yes, it was a marketing ploy to some but better cars.

No different than 356 Speedster- stripped down to make it cheaper but turned=
 out better and pricey today!!

Randy

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> On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Mike MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net> wrote:=

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> Hate to be cynical about it, but weren't the factory M cars just a marketi=
ng strategy to gin up the slow sales after the next big thing was announced?=
 ( 6 cylinder cars)
> Mike MacLean
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> On Jul 22, 2019 11:53 AM, Ken Fleming via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>=
 wrote:
> Perry, I  am certainly not the knowledge base on the subject and their are=
 others that have deeper knowledge.=20
> In fact the earlier converted cars were actually in less numbers and serve=
d as the basis for the production 100M. DMH saw an opportunity to market the=
 performance mods especially to the US market. Though the number of kits sol=
d has been debated, the number of 519 I believe has been shared over the yea=
rs starting with Geoff Healey who quoted 1159 M were produced of which the 6=
40 is included, but no documentation exists to confirm.
> If that is case, then there are less converted pre production M then facto=
ry though the factory M were a result of the converted ones.
> I have a Aug 54 100 that was converted in period.
> Good discussion on the subject and I am open to more information on the su=
bject from the list.
> Ken
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 22, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Perry Small <healeyguy@aol.com> wrote:
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> Curious. Why did it take from 1953 to 1955 to build a real 100m if the par=
ts were readily available?  Maybe I=E2=80=99m overlooking an obvious reason.=
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> Thanks
> P=20
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 22, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Ken Fleming via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.n=
et> wrote:
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> David, just confirmed that in late 53 Donald Healey Motor Co begin offerin=
g kit P280 to BMC dealers. I would assume West Coast likely were on the fron=
t end of that offering
> So yes late 53.
> Ken
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 22, 2019, at 1:31 PM, David P <frogeye@porterscustom.com> wrote:
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> I don't think that is correct. Maybe very late '55- makes more sense with t=
hem knowing that the end of the 4cyl was coming..
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> On 7/22/2019 11:04 AM, Ken Fleming via Healeys wrote:
> If my memory serves me the first kits were available as early as 53.
> Ken=20
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 19, 2019, at 12:47 PM, goldengt <goldengt@cal.net> wrote:
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> When where the first Ms or kits available to West Coast dealers?
> Ken Freese
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Not when you consider the stiffer suspensio=
n/better handling &amp; 25% more horsepower. Significantly better driving ca=
r than std. BN2.<div><br></div><div>But yes, it was a marketing ploy to some=
 but better cars.</div><div><br></div><div>No different than 356 Speedster- s=
tripped down to make it cheaper but turned out better and pricey today!!</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Randy<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr=
">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 22, 2019, at 4:52 PM,=
 Mike MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";>rrengineer.mike=
@att.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div dir=3D"auto">Hate to be cynical about it, but weren't the factory M=
 cars just a marketing strategy to gin up the slow sales after the next big t=
hing was announced? ( 6 cylinder cars)<div dir=3D"auto">Mike MacLean</div></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 22, 201=
9 11:53 AM, Ken Fleming via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team=
.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockqu=
ote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Perry, I &nbsp;am certainly not the knowle=
dge base on the subject and their are others that have deeper knowledge.&nbs=
p;<div>In fact the earlier converted cars were actually in less numbers and s=
erved as the basis for the production 100M. DMH saw an opportunity to market=
 the performance mods especially to the US market. Though the number of kits=
 sold has been debated, the number of 519 I believe has been shared over the=
 years starting with Geoff Healey who quoted 1159 M were produced of which t=
he 640 is included, but no documentation exists to confirm.</div><div>If tha=
t is case, then there are less converted pre production M then factory thoug=
h the factory M were a result of the converted ones.</div><div>I have a Aug 5=
4 100 that was converted in period.</div><div>Good discussion on the subject=
 and I am open to more information on the subject from the list.</div><div>K=
en</div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br>On Jul 22, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Perry Small &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:heale=
yguy@aol.com">healeyguy@aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Curious. Why did it take from 1953 to 1955 to build a real 100m=
 if the parts were readily available? &nbsp;Maybe I=E2=80=99m overlooking an=
 obvious reason.&nbsp;<div>Thanks</div><div>P&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 22, 2019, at 1:49 PM, K=
en Fleming via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys=
@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div dir=3D"ltr"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">David, just confirmed that in late 53 D=
onald Healey Motor Co begin offering kit P280 to BMC dealers. I would assume=
 West Coast likely were on the front end of that offering</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">So yes late 53.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ken<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent f=
rom my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jul 22, 2019, at 1:31 PM, David P=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:frogeye@porterscustom.com";>frogeye@porterscustom.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div dir=3D"ltr">
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    <p>I don't think that is correct. Maybe very late '55- makes more
      sense with them knowing that the end of the 4cyl was coming..<br>
    </p>
    <div>On 7/22/2019 11:04 AM, Ken Fleming via
      Healeys wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote>
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      If my memory serves me the first kits were available as early as
      53.
      <div>Ken&nbsp;<br>
        <br>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
          On Jul 19, 2019, at 12:47 PM, goldengt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:golde=
ngt@cal.net">goldengt@cal.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
          <br>
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            <div>When where the first Ms or kits available to West Coast
              dealers?</div>
            <div>Ken Freese</div>
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