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To: <s.hutchings@rogers.com>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Electric fan
From: "Robert Begani" <rfbegani@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 23:57:56 -0400
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Stephen:

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As part of my rebuilding the engine in my BJ8, I installed a fan on the =
outside of the radiator with a manual switch for now.  In addition, I =
installed the =E2=80=9CShovel=E2=80=9D a baffle on the underside of the =
radiator to direct air into the engine compartment rather than going =
down under the engine.  Early driving of short distances on highways and =
city streets without the fan indicates that the Shovel is a great =
improvement for driving without overheating.  I can go along at 20-30 =
mph in light traffic and some stopping with no overheating.  However, =
you still need a fan to keep the engine from overheating in the hot =
Florida Sun.

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On the other hand, I did not have an overheating problem driving in the =
Chicago and Suburbs when we lived there for over 30 years which is about =
the same climate as Toronto, more or less as long as I stayed away from =
traffic jams in the summer months. Southern Florida is hot all the time! =
 Next I will re-core the radiator.

=20

Bob Begani

67 BJ8

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of =
warthodson--- via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 1:55 PM
To: s.hutchings@rogers.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Electric fan

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Stephen,

Before adding an electric fan, here are a few things to consider:

I have a 6 bladed fan that was a factory option. It has made a =
measurable difference on my car. Many of the usual suppliers offer it. =
Some of these repros. have a reputation for fatigue cracking with =
disastrous results. I have had mine for 8-10 years & I inspect it =
annually. No problem so far.

Do you have an original type thermostat that has a moving sleeve to =
block the bypass port when the t'stat reaches the operating temp? If =
not, you are loosing some of the radiator's efficiency.=20

Do you have the original air baffles installed?=20

Using coolant mix in the summer with 15-25% antifreeze will improve the =
heat transfer efficiency of your cooling system measurably when compared =
to a 50% or higher mix.=20

Some antifreeze is necessary for water pump lubrication. I drain the 50% =
solution into Jugs in the spring & put a 20% solution in. I save the 50% =
solution & reverse the process in the fall.=20

Have you considered having your radiator re-cored with a more efficient =
core?

Is your electric system capable of the increased load of the electric =
fan?

=20

Depending upon your definition of practical, I assumed it meant easy =
&/or inexpensive, there are more things that can be done to improve the =
cooling system efficiency.

=20

Gary Hodson

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Hutchings <s.hutchings@rogers.com =
Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2019 12:02 pm
Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan

I=E2=80=99m interested in what is the most practical way to install an =
electric fan.

I know some people opt to keep the original fan blades as well, and =
switch on the electric one when it=E2=80=99s really needed, and others =
go for a complete electric replacement with a thermostat.

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I haven=E2=80=99t put an electric fan in, and I=E2=80=99ve got away =
without it so far. But I really hate getting stuck in traffic in hot =
weather- doesn=E2=80=99t happen often but it can get pretty damn hot =
under those circumstances, and it would be nice to have one less thing =
to be concerned with when travelling.

The traffic around Toronto is so awful, no matter how strategic your =
timing is- you can still get stuck.

=20

Now that my car is put away for the winter, I=E2=80=99m thinking about =
possible future projects.

=20

Stephen, BJ8

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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>A=
s part of my rebuilding the engine in my BJ8, I installed a fan on the =
outside of the radiator with a manual switch for now.=C2=A0 In addition, =
I installed the =E2=80=9CShovel=E2=80=9D a baffle on the underside of =
the radiator to direct air into the engine compartment rather than going =
down under the engine.=C2=A0 Early driving of short distances on =
highways and city streets without the fan indicates that the Shovel is a =
great improvement for driving without overheating.=C2=A0 I can go along =
at 20-30 mph in light traffic and some stopping with no =
overheating.=C2=A0 However, you still need a fan to keep the engine from =
overheating in the hot Florida Sun.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>O=
n the other hand, I did not have an overheating problem driving in the =
Chicago and Suburbs when we lived there for over 30 years which is about =
the same climate as Toronto, more or less as long as I stayed away from =
traffic jams in the summer months. Southern Florida is hot all the =
time!=C2=A0 Next I will re-core the radiator.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>B=
ob Begani<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>6=
7 BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Healeys =
&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>warthodson--- =
via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 29, 2019 1:55 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> s.hutchings@rogers.com; =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Electric =
fan<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ste=
phen,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Bef=
ore adding an electric fan, here are a few things to =
consider:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
have a 6 bladed fan that was a factory option. It has made a measurable =
difference on my car. Many of the usual suppliers offer it. Some of =
these repros. have a reputation for fatigue cracking with disastrous =
results. I have had mine for 8-10 years &amp; I inspect it annually. No =
problem so far.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Do =
you have an original type thermostat that has a moving sleeve to block =
the bypass port when the t'stat reaches the operating temp? If not, you =
are loosing some of the radiator's =
efficiency.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Do =
you have the original air baffles =
installed?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Usi=
ng coolant mix in the summer with 15-25% antifreeze will improve the =
heat transfer efficiency of your cooling system measurably when compared =
to a 50% or higher mix.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Som=
e antifreeze is necessary for water pump lubrication. I drain the 50% =
solution into Jugs in the spring &amp; put a 20% solution in. I save the =
50% solution &amp; reverse the process in the =
fall.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;back=
ground:white'>Have you considered having your radiator re-cored with a =
more efficient core?</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Is =
your electric system capable of the increased load of the electric =
fan?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dep=
ending upon your definition of practical, I assumed it meant easy =
&amp;/or inexpensive, there are more things that can be done to improve =
the cooling system efficiency.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Gar=
y Hodson<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Stephen Hutchings &lt;<a =
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To: Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>=
Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2019 12:02 pm<br>Subject: [Healeys] Electric =
fan<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I=E2=
=80=99m interested in what is the most practical way to install an =
electric fan.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
know some people opt to keep the original fan blades as well, and switch =
on the electric one when it=E2=80=99s really needed, and others go for a =
complete electric replacement with a =
thermostat.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
haven=E2=80=99t put an electric fan in, and I=E2=80=99ve got away =
without it so far. But I really hate getting stuck in traffic in hot =
weather- doesn=E2=80=99t happen often but it can get pretty damn hot =
under those circumstances, and it would be nice to have one less thing =
to be concerned with when travelling.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
 traffic around Toronto is so awful, no matter how strategic your timing =
is- you can still get stuck.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Now=
 that my car is put away for the winter, I=E2=80=99m thinking about =
possible future projects.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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