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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:50:59 +0100
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If the fan is a pusher in front of the radiator the hollow side of the 
blades will be towards the radiator, if it is a puller (preferred) 
behind the radiator the hollow side is towards the engine. To make room 
for the puller fan you usually have to remove the fixed fan, depending 
on the design (thickness) of the fan assembly. Direction of rotation can 
be changed by changing over the two wires on the fan. In some cases the 
fan can be reversed on the spindle to make it both puller and pusher.

Fan blades are often not symmetrically distributed on the hub to prevent 
resonances and thus noise.

Kees Oudesluijs


Op 12-11-2019 om 11:39 schreef simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com:
>
> This is one of two topics raised in my original post. See:-
>
> ?I imagine that, if I reverse the wires, the fan will run the other 
> way. That?s all very well?.goes round and round but will, in effect, 
> be pulling the air rather than pushing. Which is useless. Is there a 
> solution??
>
> Looking at the photos, it seemed to me that the blades had a 
> particular shape and that it was not symmetrical one side to the 
> other. So I sort of assumed that reversing the direction would not be 
> the whole solution.
>
> Whilst I should like to be sure of this before I commit to a fan, it 
> does seem that the blades have that very particular design for a reason.
>
> Of course, when/if I buy the fan, it may not be physically possible to 
> reverse the blades!
>
> Keep it coming!
>
> Simon
>
> *From:*WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>
> *Sent:* 12 November 2019 00:49
> *To:* Larry Wendland via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>; 
> simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe
>
> I don't have experience with Kenlowe, but I assume (and realize there 
> is danger in that word) that these fans are all pretty much the same. 
> That being said the direction, and therefore the flow of the fan can 
> be reversed by switching the wires. For best results you may also want 
> to remove the fan blade assembly and turn it around on the shaft since 
> most of the newer fans use a  backward curved blade design for optimum 
> efficiency.
>
> Bill Lawrence
>
> BN1 #554
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net 
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 10, 2019 3:02 PM
> *To:* simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com 
> <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe
>
> Simon, I Googled Kenlowe and it showed it has a two wire lead.  You 
> can wire it up as you please. Just check the two wires with a volt-ohm 
> meter to see if either one is common to the fan housing. If not, then 
> the motor to the fan is isolated from its housing. Should be no issue 
> if it is isolated.
> Larry '67 BJ8
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: simon.lachlan <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com 
> Sent: Sun, Nov 10, 2019 7:38 am
> Subject: [Healeys] Kenlowe
>
>
>
> Hi Experts,
> I have a 3000. It is Negative earth.
> I have an opportunity to buy a Kenlowe, second hand, at a very good 
> price. It is Positive earth.
> I imagine that, if I reverse the wires, the fan will run the other 
> way. That?s all very well?.goes round and round but will, in effect, 
> be pulling the air rather than pushing. Which is useless.
> Is there a solution? Apart from not buying it!
>
> Simon
>
>
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    <p>If the fan is a pusher in front of the radiator the hollow side
      of the blades will be towards the radiator, if it is a puller
      (preferred) behind the radiator the hollow side is towards the
      engine. To make room for the puller fan you usually have to remove
      the fixed fan, depending on the design (thickness) of the fan
      assembly. Direction of rotation can be changed by changing over
      the two wires on the fan. In some cases the fan can be reversed on
      the spindle to make it both puller and pusher.</p>
    <p>Fan blades are often not symmetrically distributed on the hub to
      prevent resonances and thus noise.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 12-11-2019 om 11:39 schreef
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This
            is one of two topics raised in my original post. 
See:-<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">?</span>I
          imagine that, if I reverse the wires, the fan will run the
          other way. That?s all very well?.goes round and round but
          will, in effect, be pulling the air rather than pushing. Which
          is useless. Is there a solution?? <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Looking at the photos, it seemed to me that
          the blades had a particular shape and that it was not
          symmetrical one side to the other. So I sort of assumed that
          reversing the direction would not be the whole solution. 
<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Whilst I should like to be sure of this
          before I commit to a fan, it does seem that the blades have
          that very particular design for a reason.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Of course, when/if I buy the fan, it may
          not be physically possible to reverse the blades! <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Keep it coming!<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Simon<br>
          <br>
          <span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <a 
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:ynotink@msn.com";>&lt;ynotink@msn.com&gt;</a>
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 12 November 2019 00:49<br>
                <b>To:</b> Larry Wendland via Healeys
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a>;
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I don't have
              experience with Kenlowe, but I assume (and realize there
              is danger in that word) that these fans are all pretty
              much the same. That being said the direction, and
              therefore the flow of the fan can be reversed by switching
              the wires. For best results you may also want to remove
              the fan blade assembly and turn it around on the shaft
              since most of the newer fans use a  backward curved blade
              design for optimum efficiency.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        </div>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Bill 
Lawrence<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        </div>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">BN1 
#554<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span 
style="color:black">From:</span></b><span
              style="color:black"> Healeys &lt;<a
                href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
                moz-do-not-send="true">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
              on behalf of Larry Wendland via Healeys &lt;<a
                href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 10, 2019 3:02 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a
                href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";
                moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>
              &lt;<a href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";
                
moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt;;
              <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a> &lt;<a
                href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Simon, I
              Googled Kenlowe and it showed it has a two wire lead.  You
              can wire it up as you please. Just check the two wires
              with a volt-ohm meter to see if either one is common to
              the fan housing. If not, then the motor to the fan is
              isolated from its housing. Should be no issue if it is
              isolated. <br>
              Larry '67 BJ8<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              -----Original Message-----<br>
              From: simon.lachlan &lt;<a
                href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";
                
moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt;<br>
              To: 'Healeys' &lt;<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
              Sent: Sun, Nov 10, 2019 7:38 am<br>
              Subject: [Healeys] Kenlowe<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <br>
              Hi Experts,<br>
              I have a 3000. It is Negative earth.<br>
              I have an opportunity to buy a Kenlowe, second hand, at a
              very good price. It is Positive earth.<br>
              I imagine that, if I reverse the wires, the fan will run
              the other way. That?s all very well?.goes round and round
              but will, in effect, be pulling the air rather than
              pushing. Which is useless.<br>
              Is there a solution? Apart from not buying it!<br>
              <br>
              <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Simon<br>
                <br>
              <br>
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