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Re: [Healeys] Adhesive

To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>, "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Adhesive
From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 23:00:42 +0000
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A couple comments:

Weldwood also makes another version of their contact cement which is a gel =
and id less likely to drip or spill. I've used it and it is just as good as=
 the liquid stuff. I cleaned up excess contact cement with plain old paint =
thinner. Works well and doesn't seem to effect vinyl or leather dyes.

Re: flammability vs toxicity: Gasoline, especially as formulated currently =
has as many toxic effects as most contact adhesives. In addition the contac=
t adhesive containers carry a warning to users to turn off gas mains before=
 using it. Of course both hazards are dependent on the amount of material b=
eing used  and the concentration of solvents in the breating zone. A little=
 common sense will serve to keep you safe from both factors. California leg=
islation is living proof that anything worth doing is worth over-doing.

Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Bob Spidell <bs=
pidell@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 6:31 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Adhesive

I don't think flammability is the issue California has with some products; =
it's the volatile, highly toxic/carcinogenic solvents used in many of them.=
  I can go a couple blocks down the street and buy as much of a highly flam=
mable--in fact, explosive--compound called 'gasoline' and put it in my vehi=
cles with no (unreasonable) restrictions.

Shame on California for trying to limit/reduce the amount of highly toxic/c=
arcinogenic chemicals in the air we all have to breathe.   Shame shame sham=
e.

Bob


On 11/26/2019 9:39 AM, Michael MacLean wrote:
As far as Weldwood is concerned there is an effective contact cement and th=
en there is the California version of Weldwood.  The California version is =
not worth your time.  I had to buy out of state through Amazon to get the m=
ore flammable (but works) version that the People's Democratic Republic of =
California is protecting us from.  I used it for the saddlebags on my Harle=
y Davidson.  They are an all leather construction and tend to "deflate" ove=
r a short amount of time.  Looks terrible.  Through a club affiliation I go=
t shaped double thick hard leather inserts for the front and back sides.  I=
n the instructions it was recommended the non-California version of Weldwoo=
d Contact Cement.  It has held fast since 2003.  In the pictures you can se=
e what happens to the bag over time and what it should look like (my bike).=
 Actually comes nice from the factory, but leather does not keep it's shape=
 very well.

On Tuesday, November 26, 2019, 5:25:54 AM PST, Perry Small via Healeys <hea=


If you look for Weldwood adhesive at the local hardware store, this type, w=
orks very well. A bit messy and as mentioned, use a cheap throw away brush.=
 Can clean up with lacquer thinner.
P






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Weldwood also makes another version of their contact cement which is a gel =
and id less likely to drip or spill. I've used it and it is just as good as=
 the liquid stuff. I cleaned up excess contact cement with plain old paint =
thinner. Works well and doesn't
 seem to effect vinyl or leather dyes.</div>
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Re: flammability vs toxicity: Gasoline, especially as formulated currently =
has as many toxic effects as most contact adhesives. In addition the contac=
t adhesive containers carry a warning to users to turn off gas mains before=
 using it. Of course both hazards
 are dependent on the amount of material being used &nbsp;and the concentra=
tion of solvents in the breating zone. A little common sense will serve to =
keep you safe from both factors. California legislation is living proof tha=
t anything worth doing is worth over-doing.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
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Bill Lawrence</div>
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BN1 #554</div>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;healeys-b=
ounces@autox.team.net&gt; on behalf of Bob Spidell &lt;bspidell@comcast.net=
&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 26, 2019 6:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Adhesive</font>
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<div style=3D"background-color:#FFFFFF">I don't think flammability is the i=
ssue California has with some products; it's the volatile, highly toxic/car=
cinogenic solvents used in many of them.&nbsp; I can go a couple blocks dow=
n the street and buy as much of a highly
 flammable--in fact, explosive--compound called 'gasoline' and put it in my=
 vehicles with no (unreasonable) restrictions.<br>
<br>
Shame on California for trying to limit/reduce the amount of highly toxic/c=
arcinogenic chemicals in the air we all have to breathe.&nbsp;&nbsp; Shame =
shame shame.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_moz-cite-prefix">On 11/26/2019 9:39 AM, Michael MacLean wro=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">As far as Weldwood is concerned there is an effective cont=
act cement and then there is the California version of Weldwood.&nbsp; The =
California version is not worth your time.&nbsp; I had to buy out of state =
through Amazon to get the more flammable (but
 works) version that the People's Democratic Republic of California is prot=
ecting us from.&nbsp; I used it for the saddlebags on my Harley Davidson.&n=
bsp; They are an all leather construction and tend to &quot;deflate&quot; o=
ver a short amount of time.&nbsp; Looks terrible.&nbsp; Through
 a club affiliation I got shaped double thick hard leather inserts for the =
front and back sides.&nbsp; In the instructions it was recommended the non-=
California version of Weldwood Contact Cement.&nbsp; It has held fast since=
 2003.&nbsp; In the pictures you can see what happens
 to the bag over time and what it should look like (my bike). Actually come=
s nice from the factory, but leather does not keep it's shape very well.<br=
>
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<div>On Tuesday, November 26, 2019, 5:25:54 AM PST, Perry Small via Healeys=
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&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a> wrote: </div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">If you look for Weldwood adhesive at the local hardware st=
ore, this type, works very well. A bit messy and as mentioned, use a cheap =
throw away brush. Can clean up with lacquer thinner.
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