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To: David Porter <frogeye@porterscustom.com>, David Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com>, 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100/4 Cockpit Surround
From: Peter & Veronica <greylinn@ozemail.com.au>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 08:55:20 +1000
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...one of the guys in our (Queensland) club has his vinyl covered =E2=80=93=
 looks good

Cheers

Peter

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: David Porter
Sent: Monday, 30 December 2019 8:53 AM
To: David Nock; 'Michael Salter'
Cc: healeys@autox team. net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100/4 Cockpit Surround

In one of the Healey books there was an early instance of wrapping it in vi=
nyl. A good choice in hot climates and it hides any dings. No more scalded =
arms. DP


On December 29, 2019, at 3:40 PM, David Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes we clear powder coat them all the time. Did mine18 years ago and still =
look great. A little brighter than anodizing=C2=A0
David Nock

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 29, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote=
:
=EF=BB=BF
Hi David,
I have been considering having them powder coated have you actually tried i=
t?
It would certainly make life a lot easier.=20
Ikea uses a very similar finish of many of their metal parts and the finish=
 is very durable and a perfect match for the original Bright Dip.
I'd love to know where they have it done.

M

BTW I found this on Bright Dip .... Hardly surprising that it is hard to fi=
nd someone to do it!!

People probably don't say much about brite dipping chemistry for a number o=
f reasons.=20
First, very few anodizers do brite dipping, which limits the amount of resp=
onse we can expect.=20
Second, there are a number of proprietary suppliers, and people may not be =
sure if a composition they know of is generic knowledge or is actually a pr=
oprietary trade secret they can get in trouble for publishing.
Third -- and most important -- those who are familiar with it realize this =
is a really, really, nasty solution that requires specially designed garage=
-door type fume containment (not conventional lip exhaust or push-pull exha=
ust), special unconventional fume scrubbers to deal with the wild NOx fumin=
g and high solubility of nitric acid that conventional fume scrubbers can't=
 handle, and very well engineered secondary containment because it is extre=
mely aggressive even to expensive construction materials. This stuff runnin=
g on the floor after eating through a 316L stainless tank is a major concer=
n.=20

On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 5:23 PM David Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com> wrote:
Another option is to have the anodizing remove. Then polish the trim, then =
have it clear powdered coated=C2=A0
David Nock

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 28, 2019, at 4:28 PM, Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotma=
il.com> wrote:
=EF=BB=BF=20
Ken,
There was a place in Ontario, Canada called Holly=E2=80=99s Anodizing but t=
hey have closed at the end of November, so I am not sure where you would go=
 for that now. I know that House of Silver was considering this service not=
 too long ago, will call them next week if they have decided to start doing=
 it.
=C2=A0
Jean
=C2=A0
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
=C2=A0
From: Ken Fleming via Healeys
Sent: December 28, 2019 5:38 PM
To: Healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] 100/4 Cockpit Surround
=C2=A0
I have been considering re-anodizing the surround pieces on a hundred but h=
ave not been able to find someone to perform this service. Can anyone on li=
st share advice on any firm that can anodize these pieces correctly and or =
has experience with anyone.=20
Ken

Sent from my iPhone
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--></style></head><body lang=3DEN-AU link=3Dblue vlink=3D"#954F72"><div cla=
ss=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>...one of the guys in our (Queenslan=
d) club has his vinyl covered =E2=80=93 looks good</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Peter</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.micros=
oft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-border-div;border=
:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3D=
MsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0cm'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:=
frogeye@porterscustom.com">David Porter</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, 30 Dece=
mber 2019 8:53 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@gmail.com";>Davi=
d Nock</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>'Michael Salter'</a>=
<br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox team=
. net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] 100/4 Cockpit Surround</p></div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>In one of the Healey books the=
re was an early instance of wrapping it in vinyl. A good choice in hot clim=
ates and it hides any dings. No more scalded arms. DP<span style=3D'font-si=
ze:11.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-botto=
m:12.0pt'><br><br>On December 29, 2019, at 3:40 PM, David Nock &lt;healeydo=
c@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bott=
om:12.0pt'>Yes we clear powder coat them all the time. Did mine18 years ago=
 and still look great. A little brighter than anodizing&nbsp;</p><div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal>David Nock</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone</p></div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><br><br></p><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margi=
n-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Dec =
29, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Michael Salter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gm=
ail.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote>=
</div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF</p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'=
font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Hi David,<o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Comic Sans MS"'>I have been considering having them powder coated have =
you actually tried it?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>It would cert=
ainly make life a lot easier. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Ikea =
uses a very similar finish of many of their metal parts and the finish is v=
ery durable and a perfect match for the original Bright Dip.<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font=
-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>I'd love to know where they have it done.<o:p></o:=
p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0p=
t;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"=
'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Co=
mic Sans MS"'>BTW I found this on Bright Dip .... Hardly surprising that it=
 is hard to find someone to do it!!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><i><span style=
=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'>People probabl=
y don't say much about brite dipping chemistry for a number of reasons. <br=
>First, very few anodizers do brite dipping, which limits the amount of res=
ponse we can expect. <br>Second, there are a number of proprietary supplier=
s, and people may not be sure if a composition they know of is generic know=
ledge or is actually a proprietary trade secret they can get in trouble for=
 publishing.<br>Third -- and most important -- those who are familiar with =
it realize this is a really, really, nasty solution that requires specially=
 designed garage-door type fume containment (not conventional lip exhaust o=
r push-pull exhaust), special unconventional fume scrubbers to deal with th=
e wild NOx fuming and high solubility of nitric acid that conventional fume=
 scrubbers can't handle, and very well engineered secondary containment bec=
ause it is extremely aggressive even to expensive construction materials. T=
his stuff running on the floor after eating through a 316L stainless tank i=
s a major concern. </span></i><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"=
Comic Sans MS"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 5:2=
3 PM David Nock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@gmail.com";>healeydoc@gmail.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:so=
lid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:=
0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Another optio=
n is to have the anodizing remove. Then polish the trim, then have it clear=
 powdered coated&nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>David Nock</p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
>Sent from my iPhone</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br><br></p><blockq=
uote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal st=
yle=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Dec 28, 2019, at 4:28 PM, Jean Caron &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
>vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></bl=
ockquote></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF </p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'm=
so-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ken,</p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>There was=
 a place in Ontario, Canada called Holly=E2=80=99s Anodizing but they have =
closed at the end of November, so I am not sure where you would go for that=
 now. I know that House of Silver was considering this service not too long=
 ago, will call them next week if they have decided to start doing it.</p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto'>&nbsp;</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-m=
argin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jean</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top=
-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sent from <a href=
=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986"; target=3D"_blank">Mai=
l</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:au=
to;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;</p><div style=3D'border:none;border-t=
op:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:currentcol=
or currentcolor'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.n=
et" target=3D"_blank">Ken Fleming via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>December =
28, 2019 5:38 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] 100=
/4 Cockpit Surround</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-a=
lt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I have been considering re-a=
nodizing the surround pieces on a hundred but have not been able to find so=
meone to perform this service. Can anyone on list share advice on any firm =
that can anodize these pieces correctly and or has experience with anyone. =
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