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Hi,=C2=A0
Thanks all.=C2=A0 As is usual there is a lot of good discourse and experien=
ce shared by the list. =C2=A0What triggered my question on oil and oil addi=
tives was the observation of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not =
display the usual statement that it contains ZDDP. =C2=A0For decades I have=
used that oil as it carries proper oil pressure, suites the climate, etc. =
=C2=A0However, if Red Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil=
. =C2=A0I also recalled that some time back, Bob Spidell having to find a n=
ew outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed that it no longer cleared some C=
alifornia rule changes. =C2=A0I wondered it this happened to Red Line.
=C2=A0
So, I sent off an inquiry to Red Line and not getting a rapid response sent=
one to our Healey group. =C2=A0The Healey group was much faster to respond=
. =C2=A0While most business are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line respons=
e did come. =C2=A0The assurance is that Red Line Motor Oil 10W40 (SKU 11404=
) contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey's flat tappet cam =
and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm phosphorus.
As to their break in additive, their Web site indicates that a half bottle =
is enough to add to a conventional oil.=C2=A0 It also has bit of sulfur, 16=
.6 grams.=C2=A0 I have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could result i=
n too much.=C2=A0 I am just not inclined to experiment.
=C2=A0
The 3000=E2=80=99s owner=E2=80=99s manual only mentions 30 weight oil, even=
for tropical heat.=C2=A0 However, the =E2=80=9CWork shop Manual=E2=80=9D (=
the Green Book) has a much more expansive table that promotes a lot of weig=
hts depending on the manufacturer.=C2=A0 The aspect that modern oils are a =
bit different than those available when the book came out adds a bit more u=
ncertainty.=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0
I am confident using the 10W40.=C2=A0 I used 10W50 in my Triumph, but it wa=
s an air-cooled engine and was REAL hard to start in freezing weather.=C2=
=A0 There were also a lot of reputable recommendations that led me to Red L=
ine=E2=80=99s 10W40.=C2=A0 The oil pressure is proper, so I don=E2=80=99t s=
ee an upside for me to use a heavier oil.
=C2=A0
Many thanks to the folks who responded.=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0
Bill
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt; line-height: normal;=
"><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-family=
: 'Times New Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-=
bidi-font-family: Arial; color: black;">Hi, </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal=
;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Times New Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso=
-bidi-font-family: Arial; color: black;">Thanks all.<span style=3D"mso-spac=
erun: yes;"> </span>As is usual there is a lot of good discourse and =
experience shared by the list. <span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </s=
pan>What triggered my question on oil and oil additives was the observation=
of a bottle of Red Line 10W40 image that did not display the usual stateme=
nt that it contains ZDDP. <span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>F=
or decades I have used that oil as it carries proper oil pressure, suites t=
he climate, etc. <span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>However, i=
f Red Line stopped including ZDDP, I would find another oil. <span style=3D=
"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I also recalled that some time back, Bob =
Spidell having to find a new outlet for Valvoline 20W50 as it seemed that i=
t no longer cleared some California rule changes. <span style=3D"mso-spacer=
un: yes;"> </span>I wondered it this happened to Red Line.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal=
;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Times New Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">&n=
bsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal=
;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Times New Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso=
-bidi-font-family: Arial; color: black;">So, I sent off an inquiry to Red L=
ine and not getting a rapid response sent one to our Healey group. <span st=
yle=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The Healey group was much faster to=
respond. <span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>While most busine=
ss are slowed down by COVID-19, a Red Line response did come. <span style=
=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The assurance is that Red Line Motor O=
il 10W40 (SKU 11404) contains good ZDDP levels, plenty for an Austin Healey=
's flat tappet cam and lifters; 1225ppm zinc and more importantly 1375ppm p=
hosphorus.<br style=3D"mso-special-character: line-break;"><br style=3D"mso=
-special-character: line-break;"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal=
;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Times New Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">As=
to their break in additive, their Web site indicates that a half bottle is=
enough to add to a conventional oil.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;">&nb=
sp; </span>It also has bit of sulfur, 16.6 grams.<span style=3D"mso-spaceru=
n: yes;"> </span>I have to wonder if adding it to their 10W40 could r=
esult in too much.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I am jus=
t not inclined to experiment.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal=
;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Times New Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">&n=
bsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal=
;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Times New Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso=
-bidi-font-family: Arial; color: black;">The 3000’s owner’s man=
ual only mentions 30 weight oil, even for tropical heat.<span style=3D"mso-=
spacerun: yes;"> </span>However, the “Work shop Manual” (=
the Green Book) has a much more expansive table that promotes a lot of weig=
hts depending on the manufacturer.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> =
</span>The aspect that modern oils are a bit different than those availabl=
e when the book came out adds a bit more uncertainty.<span style=3D"mso-spa=
cerun: yes;"> </span></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal=
;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Times New Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso=
-bidi-font-family: Arial; color: black;"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal=
;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Times New Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso=
-bidi-font-family: Arial; color: black;">I am confident using the 10W40.<sp=
an style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I used 10W50 in my Triumph, b=
ut it was an air-cooled engine and was REAL hard to start in freezing weath=
er.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There were also a lot o=
f reputable recommendations that led me to Red Line’s 10W40.<span sty=
le=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The oil pressure is proper, so I do=
n’t see an upside for me to use a heavier oil.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal=
;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Times New Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso=
-bidi-font-family: Arial; color: black;"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: .0001pt; line-height: normal=
;"><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; font-famil=
y: 'Times New Roman',serif; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso=
-bidi-font-family: Arial; color: black;">Many thanks to the folks who respo=
nded.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size=
: 11.0pt; line-height: 107%; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; mso-bidi=
-theme-font: minor-bidi;"> </span></p>
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: 11.0pt; line-height: 107%; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif; mso-bidi=
-theme-font: minor-bidi;">Bill</span></p>
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